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Renaming Rules Joe McDermott 12-21-2007
Posted by Joe McDermott on December 21, 2007, 7:26 pm
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When I download credit card transactions from my bank in Quicken 2007, the
Payee field contains the word "Purchase" and the payee info is in the memo
field.

Is there some way to write a rule that would move the contents of the Memo
field to the Payee field whenever the word Purchase appears, regardless of
what is in the memo field.

I hope I don't have to hardcode a rule for every possible occurrence in the
memo field.

Thanks,

Joe



Posted by MikeH on December 21, 2007, 10:45 pm
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This solution is not for everyone but I ended up writing a program to re-map
all my downloaded transactions -- outside Quicken. The rule business is a
pain. All my banking-on-line payments were ending up as "Bill Payer" in the
Name field and the payee was in the memo field. I swap the purchase date
for debit card charges with the posting date and also populate the "Num"
field with codes of my choice depending on the transaction type.

> When I download credit card transactions from my bank in Quicken 2007, the
> Payee field contains the word "Purchase" and the payee info is in the memo
> field.
>
> Is there some way to write a rule that would move the contents of the Memo
> field to the Payee field whenever the word Purchase appears, regardless of
> what is in the memo field.
>
> I hope I don't have to hardcode a rule for every possible occurrence in
> the memo field.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe
>


Posted by John Pollard on December 22, 2007, 10:00 am
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Joe McDermott wrote:
> When I download credit card transactions from my bank in
> Quicken
> 2007, the Payee field contains the word "Purchase" and the
> payee info
> is in the memo field.
>
> Is there some way to write a rule that would move the contents
> of the
> Memo field to the Payee field whenever the word Purchase
> appears,
> regardless of what is in the memo field.

Or something almost as good: see Quicken "Renaming Rules" (in
the Online Menu).

You can have Quicken rename your downloaded payees (before they
are Accepted) based on the contents of the payee name or memo
fields.

--
John Pollard
First initial underscore Last name at mchsi dot com
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Posted by Ken and Jane Becker on December 22, 2007, 5:01 pm
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John Pollard wrote:
> Joe McDermott wrote:
>> When I download credit card transactions from my bank in
>> Quicken
>> 2007, the Payee field contains the word "Purchase" and the
>> payee info
>> is in the memo field.
>>
>> Is there some way to write a rule that would move the contents
>> of the
>> Memo field to the Payee field whenever the word Purchase
>> appears,
>> regardless of what is in the memo field.
>
> Or something almost as good: see Quicken "Renaming Rules" (in
> the Online Menu).
>
> You can have Quicken rename your downloaded payees (before they
> are Accepted) based on the contents of the payee name or memo
> fields.
>

John,

No offense, but I think you missed the point here.

Unfortunately, I have a credit card like the first poster where EVERY
purchase shows up with the payee field named, (I love this), "payee".

Then, in the memo field, they have the actual name of the place where
the credit card was used. Along with the date of the transaction, which
store number, and anything else that whoever the processor was could
think of.

Discover, on the other hand, actually does put into the Payee field the
name of the place where the card was used (Borders, Ye Olde Friendly
Restaurant, etc.).

In Quicken 2006, I ended up having to cut and paste the payee from every
downloaded transaction from the memo field to the payee field. A pain,
but the card in question wasn't my primary card, and I could live with it.

In Quicken 2008, the first version of Quicken in which I had the naming
rules turned on, Quicken happened to see the first "payee" transaction
and promptly used the renaming rules to change the payee to the name of
a local Chinese restaurant I frequent. Every single transaction after
that (thinks of Frankenstein's Monster clumping down the street) got
renamed to that Chinese restaurant. At this point I finally read up on
the renaming rules and discovered that the rule was that if Payee =
payee, the Chinese restaurant was substituted in.

So, for about 50 or so payees, now, I have rules. Every new one that
comes in that Quicken hasn't seen before infects the whole process,
because Quicken, by preference, seems to think the right thing to do
when it sees that "Payee", is to substitute in the Memo field name - and
then use that particular self-generated rule for all the rest of the
transactions!

As the original poster points out, what would work better is a method in
the renaming rule where if the "Payee" field has something in it that
the user sets, the Payee field becomes set to what's in another field -
like the "Memo" field contents. And maybe >then< run the renaming rules
on the new Payee field contents.

The second poster is basically doing just that, by swapping the contents
of the Payee and Memo fields, then letting Quicken doing its thing.
Which works better, when the Payee field (which it appears to favor) has
at least a piece of the actual payee.

Oh, well.

Ken Becker

Posted by Joe McDermott on December 22, 2007, 6:44 pm
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Ken,

Very good explanation. In previous versions of Quicken I would just make a
global edit of the qif file with notepad and then import it. I took a look
at the qfx file format and its not as easy to edit it with notepad. I was
hoping there were some programs floating around out there that could do this
or that maybe I was missing something.

I try to pay for everything with my credit card because it gives me a good
record of my spending so I have a lot of rules to write.


> John Pollard wrote:
>> Joe McDermott wrote:
>>> When I download credit card transactions from my bank in Quicken
>>> 2007, the Payee field contains the word "Purchase" and the payee info
>>> is in the memo field.
>>>
>>> Is there some way to write a rule that would move the contents of the
>>> Memo field to the Payee field whenever the word Purchase appears,
>>> regardless of what is in the memo field.
>>
>> Or something almost as good: see Quicken "Renaming Rules" (in the Online
>> Menu).
>>
>> You can have Quicken rename your downloaded payees (before they are
>> Accepted) based on the contents of the payee name or memo fields.
>>
>
> John,
>
> No offense, but I think you missed the point here.
>
> Unfortunately, I have a credit card like the first poster where EVERY
> purchase shows up with the payee field named, (I love this), "payee".
>
> Then, in the memo field, they have the actual name of the place where the
> credit card was used. Along with the date of the transaction, which store
> number, and anything else that whoever the processor was could think of.
>
> Discover, on the other hand, actually does put into the Payee field the
> name of the place where the card was used (Borders, Ye Olde Friendly
> Restaurant, etc.).
>
> In Quicken 2006, I ended up having to cut and paste the payee from every
> downloaded transaction from the memo field to the payee field. A pain, but
> the card in question wasn't my primary card, and I could live with it.
>
> In Quicken 2008, the first version of Quicken in which I had the naming
> rules turned on, Quicken happened to see the first "payee" transaction and
> promptly used the renaming rules to change the payee to the name of a
> local Chinese restaurant I frequent. Every single transaction after that
> (thinks of Frankenstein's Monster clumping down the street) got renamed to
> that Chinese restaurant. At this point I finally read up on the renaming
> rules and discovered that the rule was that if Payee = payee, the Chinese
> restaurant was substituted in.
>
> So, for about 50 or so payees, now, I have rules. Every new one that comes
> in that Quicken hasn't seen before infects the whole process, because
> Quicken, by preference, seems to think the right thing to do when it sees
> that "Payee", is to substitute in the Memo field name - and then use that
> particular self-generated rule for all the rest of the transactions!
>
> As the original poster points out, what would work better is a method in
> the renaming rule where if the "Payee" field has something in it that the
> user sets, the Payee field becomes set to what's in another field - like
> the "Memo" field contents. And maybe >then< run the renaming rules on the
> new Payee field contents.
>
> The second poster is basically doing just that, by swapping the contents
> of the Payee and Memo fields, then letting Quicken doing its thing. Which
> works better, when the Payee field (which it appears to favor) has at
> least a piece of the actual payee.
>
> Oh, well.
>
> Ken Becker



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