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Schedule C Income and COGS Handling in Quicken The Streets 03-21-2008
Posted by The Streets on March 21, 2008, 6:06 am
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I'm hoping that there is an easier/better way to do this .



I use Quicken H&B 2007 for my Schedule C business. When I invoice

clients I use one line item and category for labor (Income) and another for

materials (Cost of Goods Sold - COGS). When I receive a payment and

apply it against the invoice, Quicken applies the payment to these
categories.

So far, so good.



At tax time I need to report on the Schedule C all the monies I've
received -

both Income and COGS. This should be easy to do - just add the two

categories together. COGS will of course end up being subtracted back out

under expenses so I end up only paying taxes on my Income, as I should.



Now my problem . a few of my larger clients send me (and the IRS) a

1099MISC which, of course, is for all the monies they've paid me (both

Income and COGS). So, for these clients I have to find all of their COGS

charges and back these out of the COGS total so that they aren't doubled

counted when I add together the Income and COGS amounts. This is a real

pain in the neck!



Am I over thinking this or over looking some straightforward way to do this

in Quicken?



Posted by Laura on March 21, 2008, 10:18 am
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> I'm hoping that there is an easier/better way to do this .
>
> I use Quicken H&B 2007 for my Schedule C business. When I invoice
> clients I use one line item and category for labor (Income) and another
> for
> materials (Cost of Goods Sold - COGS). When I receive a payment and
> apply it against the invoice, Quicken applies the payment to these
> categories.
>
> So far, so good.
>
> At tax time I need to report on the Schedule C all the monies I've
> received -
> both Income and COGS. This should be easy to do - just add the two
> categories together. COGS will of course end up being subtracted back out
> under expenses so I end up only paying taxes on my Income, as I should.
>
> Now my problem . a few of my larger clients send me (and the IRS) a
> 1099MISC which, of course, is for all the monies they've paid me (both
> Income and COGS). So, for these clients I have to find all of their COGS
> charges and back these out of the COGS total so that they aren't doubled
> counted when I add together the Income and COGS amounts. This is a real
> pain in the neck!
>
> Am I over thinking this or over looking some straightforward way to do
> this
> in Quicken?

The correct way of recording your sales & monies received from your
customers is to post it 100% to Income. This will match the 1099-Misc that
you receive from your customers.

The proper entries to COGS should be when you sell inventory or you want to
record your direct costs for providing your service. You should not be
posting to COGS on your customer invoices. If you need to track labor from
materials then use multiple Income accounts or use the Tag/Classes feature
in Q.


Posted by The Streets on March 21, 2008, 10:22 pm
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>> I'm hoping that there is an easier/better way to do this .
>>
>> I use Quicken H&B 2007 for my Schedule C business. When I invoice
>> clients I use one line item and category for labor (Income) and another
>> for
>> materials (Cost of Goods Sold - COGS). When I receive a payment and
>> apply it against the invoice, Quicken applies the payment to these
>> categories.
>>
>> So far, so good.
>>
>> At tax time I need to report on the Schedule C all the monies I've
>> received -
>> both Income and COGS. This should be easy to do - just add the two
>> categories together. COGS will of course end up being subtracted back
>> out
>> under expenses so I end up only paying taxes on my Income, as I should.
>>
>> Now my problem . a few of my larger clients send me (and the IRS) a
>> 1099MISC which, of course, is for all the monies they've paid me (both
>> Income and COGS). So, for these clients I have to find all of their COGS
>> charges and back these out of the COGS total so that they aren't doubled
>> counted when I add together the Income and COGS amounts. This is a real
>> pain in the neck!
>>
>> Am I over thinking this or over looking some straightforward way to do
>> this
>> in Quicken?
>
> The correct way of recording your sales & monies received from your
> customers is to post it 100% to Income. This will match the 1099-Misc that
> you receive from your customers.
>
> The proper entries to COGS should be when you sell inventory or you want
> to record your direct costs for providing your service. You should not be
> posting to COGS on your customer invoices. If you need to track labor from
> materials then use multiple Income accounts or use the Tag/Classes feature
> in Q.

Laura -- Thank you for pointing me in the right direction.
Using some of your suggestions and trying some test cases, here's what I
think
will work for me ...
When I purchase materials for use on a client's project I'll continue to
assign
these to the COGS class. But when I put them on an invoice (which I do
using the Expenses box), I'll override the COGS category that Quicken
automatically fills in and replace it with Income.
Then everything should come out OK -- Income will match the 1099's and
COGS will be correct.
I think that using the pre-defined Quicken COGS class rather than multiple
income accounts will be a less confusing approach. And one that is more
likely to tranfer to Turbo Tax correctly (though I haven't used TT for some
years).
Thanks again.



Posted by Laura on March 22, 2008, 10:40 am
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>>> I'm hoping that there is an easier/better way to do this .
>>>
>>> I use Quicken H&B 2007 for my Schedule C business. When I invoice
>>> clients I use one line item and category for labor (Income) and another
>>> for
>>> materials (Cost of Goods Sold - COGS). When I receive a payment and
>>> apply it against the invoice, Quicken applies the payment to these
>>> categories.
>>>
>>> So far, so good.
>>>
>>> At tax time I need to report on the Schedule C all the monies I've
>>> received -
>>> both Income and COGS. This should be easy to do - just add the two
>>> categories together. COGS will of course end up being subtracted back
>>> out
>>> under expenses so I end up only paying taxes on my Income, as I should.
>>>
>>> Now my problem . a few of my larger clients send me (and the IRS) a
>>> 1099MISC which, of course, is for all the monies they've paid me (both
>>> Income and COGS). So, for these clients I have to find all of their
>>> COGS
>>> charges and back these out of the COGS total so that they aren't doubled
>>> counted when I add together the Income and COGS amounts. This is a real
>>> pain in the neck!
>>>
>>> Am I over thinking this or over looking some straightforward way to do
>>> this
>>> in Quicken?
>>
>> The correct way of recording your sales & monies received from your
>> customers is to post it 100% to Income. This will match the 1099-Misc
>> that you receive from your customers.
>>
>> The proper entries to COGS should be when you sell inventory or you want
>> to record your direct costs for providing your service. You should not be
>> posting to COGS on your customer invoices. If you need to track labor
>> from materials then use multiple Income accounts or use the Tag/Classes
>> feature in Q.
>
> Laura -- Thank you for pointing me in the right direction.
> Using some of your suggestions and trying some test cases, here's what I
> think
> will work for me ...
> When I purchase materials for use on a client's project I'll continue to
> assign
> these to the COGS class. But when I put them on an invoice (which I do
> using the Expenses box), I'll override the COGS category that Quicken
> automatically fills in and replace it with Income.
> Then everything should come out OK -- Income will match the 1099's and
> COGS will be correct.
> I think that using the pre-defined Quicken COGS class rather than multiple
> income accounts will be a less confusing approach. And one that is more
> likely to tranfer to Turbo Tax correctly (though I haven't used TT for
> some
> years).
> Thanks again.

You are welcome.

May I also suggest that if your business is fairly big that you might
consider upgrading to Quickbooks Pro. I use both QB and Q H&B and Quickbooks
works a lot better than Quicken for dealing with a business. I will allow
you to assign purchasing costs to flow directly to a customer invoice.


Posted by The Streets on March 22, 2008, 11:48 am
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>
>>>> I'm hoping that there is an easier/better way to do this .
>>>>
>>>> I use Quicken H&B 2007 for my Schedule C business. When I invoice
>>>> clients I use one line item and category for labor (Income) and another
>>>> for
>>>> materials (Cost of Goods Sold - COGS). When I receive a payment and
>>>> apply it against the invoice, Quicken applies the payment to these
>>>> categories.
>>>>
>>>> So far, so good.
>>>>
>>>> At tax time I need to report on the Schedule C all the monies I've
>>>> received -
>>>> both Income and COGS. This should be easy to do - just add the two
>>>> categories together. COGS will of course end up being subtracted back
>>>> out
>>>> under expenses so I end up only paying taxes on my Income, as I should.
>>>>
>>>> Now my problem . a few of my larger clients send me (and the IRS) a
>>>> 1099MISC which, of course, is for all the monies they've paid me (both
>>>> Income and COGS). So, for these clients I have to find all of their
>>>> COGS
>>>> charges and back these out of the COGS total so that they aren't
>>>> doubled
>>>> counted when I add together the Income and COGS amounts. This is a
>>>> real
>>>> pain in the neck!
>>>>
>>>> Am I over thinking this or over looking some straightforward way to do
>>>> this
>>>> in Quicken?
>>>
>>> The correct way of recording your sales & monies received from your
>>> customers is to post it 100% to Income. This will match the 1099-Misc
>>> that you receive from your customers.
>>>
>>> The proper entries to COGS should be when you sell inventory or you want
>>> to record your direct costs for providing your service. You should not
>>> be posting to COGS on your customer invoices. If you need to track labor
>>> from materials then use multiple Income accounts or use the Tag/Classes
>>> feature in Q.
>>
>> Laura -- Thank you for pointing me in the right direction.
>> Using some of your suggestions and trying some test cases, here's what I
>> think
>> will work for me ...
>> When I purchase materials for use on a client's project I'll continue to
>> assign
>> these to the COGS class. But when I put them on an invoice (which I do
>> using the Expenses box), I'll override the COGS category that Quicken
>> automatically fills in and replace it with Income.
>> Then everything should come out OK -- Income will match the 1099's and
>> COGS will be correct.
>> I think that using the pre-defined Quicken COGS class rather than
>> multiple
>> income accounts will be a less confusing approach. And one that is more
>> likely to tranfer to Turbo Tax correctly (though I haven't used TT for
>> some
>> years).
>> Thanks again.
>
> You are welcome.
>
> May I also suggest that if your business is fairly big that you might
> consider upgrading to Quickbooks Pro. I use both QB and Q H&B and
> Quickbooks works a lot better than Quicken for dealing with a business. I
> will allow you to assign purchasing costs to flow directly to a customer
> invoice.

Yes, I have QB Pro and have started fooling around with it. But the
conversion from Quicken -- both data and mental -- are significant,
at least for me.



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