Sigh... I think my 16+ year Quicken relationship is about to end

Posted by Sharx35 on June 28, 2009, 4:13 am

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> news:4a4651ee$0$87066$815e3792

> @news.qwest.net:

>> Only for idiots such as yourself who are incapable or unwilling to

>> update their tools to handle modern communications, yet. I find wasting

>> my valuable time with such social ingrates not worth the effort.

ingrates? No, technical Neanderthal Cro-Magnons is what text users are.

> plonk

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> Best regards

> Han

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Posted by Han on June 28, 2009, 9:00 am

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@edtnps82:

> technical Neanderthal Cro-Magnons is what text users are.

I use Eudora for email and Xnews for news. It works for me. Usually I can
even decipher the real text embedded with html tags (for those who don't
know it, html is really plain text embellished with plain text
"instructions" of how to "render" the embedded plain text). I consider
newsgroups the transmittal of plain text information. If there is more,
sorry, I can't perceive that part as yet.

I don't think that I will try Windows Live or dead Mail yet. If and when I
get convinced that it is really better for me, I will. I do use other
Windows Live stuff.

NOTE to lovers of "new" technology: Microsoft has annaounced it is
abandoning the "proprietary" format of Hotmail, and from now on will use
the "new" technology of authenticated pop and smtp servers for email. This
to enhance security ...

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Best regards
Han
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Posted by Andrew DeFaria on June 28, 2009, 1:20 pm

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Han wrote:
<blockquote id=3D"mid_Xns9C385B879EDF8ikkezelf_216_151_153_13"
cite=3D"mid:Xns9C385B879EDF8ikkezelf@216.151.153.13" type=3D"cite">"Shar=
x35"
t;sharx35@hotmail.com></a> wrote in <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext"=
dtnps82:</a><br>
<blockquote id=3D"StationeryCiteGenerated_1" type=3D"cite">technical
Neanderthal Cro-Magnons is what text users are.<br>
</blockquote>
I use Eudora for email and Xnews for news. It works for me.</blockquote>
No sir it doesn't work for you. If it had worked for you you'd have no
complaint. However, you have a complaint about it not working. You have
two options as I see it. You can solve your problem by getting more
capable software (or perhaps petitioning Xnews to add some
functionality - good luck with that). Or you can shut the fuck up. The
option you were trying to do is to tell the rest of the world to change
to accommodate the deficiency in your chosen software. That ain't gonna
be happening from me nor=C2=A0 probably from many others. Besides do you
really wish to wage a campaign to tell everybody else how you want them
to post?<br>
<blockquote id=3D"mid_Xns9C385B879EDF8ikkezelf_216_151_153_13"
cite=3D"mid:Xns9C385B879EDF8ikkezelf@216.151.153.13" type=3D"cite">
Usually I can even decipher the real text embedded with html tags (for
those who don't know it, html is really plain text embellished with
plain text "instructions" of how to "render" the embedded plain text).
I consider newsgroups the transmittal of plain text information. If
there is more, sorry, I can't perceive that part as yet. <br>
</blockquote>
And there's the essence of the problem. You consider it should only be
X therefore you run around to tell everybody else to only use X because
your software can only handle X and you want everybody to accommodate=C2=A0=

you.<br>
<blockquote id=3D"mid_Xns9C385B879EDF8ikkezelf_216_151_153_13"
cite=3D"mid:Xns9C385B879EDF8ikkezelf@216.151.153.13" type=3D"cite">I don=
't
think that I will try Windows Live or dead Mail yet.</blockquote>
We're talking news, not mail. While Windows Live may be used for news
(I don't know - I use Thunderbird and I don't have Windows anymore) it
is hardly the only slightly modern news reader you could chose from.<br>
<blockquote id=3D"mid_Xns9C385B879EDF8ikkezelf_216_151_153_13"
cite=3D"mid:Xns9C385B879EDF8ikkezelf@216.151.153.13" type=3D"cite"> If a=
nd
when I get convinced that it is really better for me, I will. I do use
other Windows Live stuff.<br>
</blockquote>
Again, you have perceived a problem with your news reader of choice. If
you wish to solve that problem you can see some options above. If you
don't want to solve the problem then why the fuck are you complaining?<br=

<blockquote id=3D"mid_Xns9C385B879EDF8ikkezelf_216_151_153_13"
cite=3D"mid:Xns9C385B879EDF8ikkezelf@216.151.153.13" type=3D"cite">NOTE =
to
lovers of "new" technology: Microsoft has annaounced it is abandoning
the "proprietary" format of Hotmail, and from now on will use the "new"
technology of authenticated pop and smtp servers for email. This <br>
to enhance security ...<br>
</blockquote>
And is totally irrelevant to your argument. I don't use Microsoft,
Hotmail is not news and this has nothing to do with the issue at hand.
You have a problem that you don't want to solve save to berate others
which shows you have a social and personal problem too. That's what's
happening here.<br>
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<a href=3D"http://defaria.com">Andrew DeFaria</a><br>
<small><font color=3D"#999999">A lady came up to me on the street,
pointed at my suede jacket and said, "Don't you know a cow was murdered
for that jacket?" I said "I didn't know there were any witnesses. Now
I'll have to kill you too."</font></small>
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Posted by Han on June 28, 2009, 1:29 pm

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@news.qwest.net:

> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">

> <html>

> <head>

> etc

Andrew, you're becoming pathetic. And yes, noew I am berating you. By
your own admission you cut the plain text portion from your posts, and I
believe it is just because you like to make people who can't/won't read
html feel inferior. I am doing my best to keep a civil conversation, but
you are using language that is unnecessary. I started out by referring to
your good deeds, but apparently that is not enough for King Andy. Everyone
has to follow YOUR rules. Well, tough. If you are now misquoted because
of your html garbage, the joke is on you.

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Best regards
Han
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Posted by Bert Hyman on June 28, 2009, 10:11 am

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wrote:

> What the FUCK is the problem? Just get a half-assed decent new group

> reader like Windows Live Mail and you'll have no trouble dealing with

> HTML.

USENET is and always was a pure ASCII network.

HTML is for hypertext, hence its name.

> This is 2009, for effing sake.

So what?

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Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com