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Still Backup Problems - Terri 04-10-2008
Posted by Terri on April 10, 2008, 3:56 pm
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Well - I apologize to you all for still being here and posting the same
problem. After reading so much info on 2006, I find I have NO QDATA files at
all! My files are in C:Documents and SettingsmynameiMy DocumentsQuicken
and then there is a folder called BackUp but I see no Qdata files. I see
QEL, DQF, IDX and some FXLOG.DAR
I am so frustrated and interestingly enough, have been using Quicken for
years so I am not new to this and never had problems in years past. It is
only now that this problem is starting.
Grrr - I am embarrased but want to straighten this out before I turn gray
(grayer!!)
Thanks!



Posted by Andrew on April 10, 2008, 5:40 pm
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Terri wrote:
> Well - I apologize to you all for still being here and posting the
> same problem. After reading so much info on 2006, I find I have NO
> QDATA files at all! My files are in C:Documents and
> SettingsmynameiMy DocumentsQuicken and then there is a folder
> called BackUp but I see no Qdata files. I see QEL, DQF, IDX and some
> FXLOG.DAR I am so frustrated and interestingly enough, have been using
> Quicken
> for years so I am not new to this and never had problems in years
> past. It is only now that this problem is starting.
> Grrr - I am embarrased but want to straighten this out before I turn
> gray (grayer!!)
> Thanks!

If you have a folder called 'BACKUP' in your Quicken data folder, that's
where the Quicken backups are. You say you "see" files called "QEL, DQF,
IDX ", (probably mean QDF by the way). I doubt that's the full name. What
you listed are the filetypes (ie: the 3 letters after the dot in a filename)
of Quicken files (like QDATA.QDF, QDATA.QEL, etc.). But one does NOT need
to use the default filename (the letters in front of the dot) of 'QDATA'.
Since I maintain 4 people's books on mine, I have four peoples names (like
JOAN.*, BOB.*, TOM.* where * are the filetypes (eg: BOB.QEL, TOM.QDF, etc.)
in mine. Maybe you too changed the default, thus you won't see 'QDATA.*'
files either?

So what's the *full* filenames of those .QEL, .QDF, .IDX , etc. files in
your backup folder?

(Am as I am sure you know, this BACKUP folder is the folder that Quicken
uses for its automatic backups; you can also use any location you wish for
backups that YOU create with the backup command (FILE-->BACKUP) where you
get to 'browse' to select a directory to put your manual backups in.)

--
-------------------------------------------------------------
Regards -

- Andrew



Posted by Terri on April 10, 2008, 7:16 pm
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Well - In the main quicken folder: A-name07_12312007BKP.QEL
A-Name07_12312007BKP.QDF
A-Name07_12312007KP.IDX

There are others that say copy.qel/qdf/idx
and those that do not say copy

There are two different accounts there....

Will this help?

Terri
> Terri wrote:
>> Well - I apologize to you all for still being here and posting the
>> same problem. After reading so much info on 2006, I find I have NO
>> QDATA files at all! My files are in C:Documents and
>> SettingsmynameiMy DocumentsQuicken and then there is a folder
>> called BackUp but I see no Qdata files. I see QEL, DQF, IDX and some
>> FXLOG.DAR I am so frustrated and interestingly enough, have been using
>> Quicken
>> for years so I am not new to this and never had problems in years
>> past. It is only now that this problem is starting.
>> Grrr - I am embarrased but want to straighten this out before I turn
>> gray (grayer!!)
>> Thanks!
>
> If you have a folder called 'BACKUP' in your Quicken data folder, that's
> where the Quicken backups are. You say you "see" files called "QEL, DQF,
> IDX ", (probably mean QDF by the way). I doubt that's the full name.
> What you listed are the filetypes (ie: the 3 letters after the dot in a
> filename) of Quicken files (like QDATA.QDF, QDATA.QEL, etc.). But one
> does NOT need to use the default filename (the letters in front of the
> dot) of 'QDATA'. Since I maintain 4 people's books on mine, I have four
> peoples names (like JOAN.*, BOB.*, TOM.* where * are the filetypes (eg:
> BOB.QEL, TOM.QDF, etc.) in mine. Maybe you too changed the default, thus
> you won't see 'QDATA.*' files either?
>
> So what's the *full* filenames of those .QEL, .QDF, .IDX , etc. files in
> your backup folder?
>
> (Am as I am sure you know, this BACKUP folder is the folder that Quicken
> uses for its automatic backups; you can also use any location you wish for
> backups that YOU create with the backup command (FILE-->BACKUP) where you
> get to 'browse' to select a directory to put your manual backups in.)
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> Regards -
>
> - Andrew
>



Posted by Han on April 10, 2008, 9:01 pm
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> Well - In the main quicken folder: A-name07_12312007BKP.QEL
> A-Name07_12312007BKP.QDF
> A-Name07_12312007KP.IDX
>
> There are others that say copy.qel/qdf/idx
> and those that do not say copy
>
> There are two different accounts there....
>
> Will this help?
>
> Terri
>> Terri wrote:
>>> Well - I apologize to you all for still being here and posting the
>>> same problem. After reading so much info on 2006, I find I have NO
>>> QDATA files at all! My files are in C:Documents and
>>> SettingsmynameiMy DocumentsQuicken and then there is a folder
>>> called BackUp but I see no Qdata files. I see QEL, DQF, IDX and some
>>> FXLOG.DAR I am so frustrated and interestingly enough, have been
>>> using Quicken
>>> for years so I am not new to this and never had problems in years
>>> past. It is only now that this problem is starting.
>>> Grrr - I am embarrased but want to straighten this out before I turn
>>> gray (grayer!!)
>>> Thanks!
>>
>> If you have a folder called 'BACKUP' in your Quicken data folder,
>> that's where the Quicken backups are. You say you "see" files called
>> "QEL, DQF, IDX ", (probably mean QDF by the way). I doubt that's the
>> full name. What you listed are the filetypes (ie: the 3 letters after
>> the dot in a filename) of Quicken files (like QDATA.QDF, QDATA.QEL,
>> etc.). But one does NOT need to use the default filename (the
>> letters in front of the dot) of 'QDATA'. Since I maintain 4 people's
>> books on mine, I have four peoples names (like JOAN.*, BOB.*, TOM.*
>> where * are the filetypes (eg: BOB.QEL, TOM.QDF, etc.) in mine.
>> Maybe you too changed the default, thus you won't see 'QDATA.*' files
>> either?
>>
>> So what's the *full* filenames of those .QEL, .QDF, .IDX , etc. files
>> in your backup folder?
>>
>> (Am as I am sure you know, this BACKUP folder is the folder that
>> Quicken uses for its automatic backups; you can also use any location
>> you wish for backups that YOU create with the backup command
>> (FILE-->BACKUP) where you get to 'browse' to select a directory to
>> put your manual backups in.)
>>
>> --
>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>> Regards -
>>
>> - Andrew
>>
I think you need to search for all "*.qdf" files (without the quotes) on
your drive(s).

A part of the names you provided looks like a backup file where you let
Quicken add the date of the backup to the file(s), although my backup
files look like "filename_20080410.QDF", for today's backup.

I think the file(s) without the added date that are most recent are yor
last modified file(s). Once you have the "filename.qdf" you will need to
get all the files of the file set. Normally in the same folder, but I
would also search for "filename.*". Note that the timestamps may not all
be the same, because some files are left unchanged.

I would make sure that you end up with just 1 directory of user-initiated
backups, and not a whole bunch of nested backup folders.

HTH!
--
Best regards
Han
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Posted by Andrew on April 10, 2008, 9:23 pm
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Han wrote:
>
>> Well - In the main quicken folder: A-name07_12312007BKP.QEL
>> A-Name07_12312007BKP.QDF
>> A-Name07_12312007KP.IDX
>>
>> There are others that say copy.qel/qdf/idx
>> and those that do not say copy
>>
>> There are two different accounts there....
>>
>> Will this help?
>>
>> Terri
>>> Terri wrote:
>>>> Well - I apologize to you all for still being here and posting the
>>>> same problem. After reading so much info on 2006, I find I have NO
>>>> QDATA files at all! My files are in C:Documents and
>>>> SettingsmynameiMy DocumentsQuicken and then there is a folder
>>>> called BackUp but I see no Qdata files. I see QEL, DQF, IDX and
>>>> some FXLOG.DAR I am so frustrated and interestingly enough, have
>>>> been using Quicken
>>>> for years so I am not new to this and never had problems in years
>>>> past. It is only now that this problem is starting.
>>>> Grrr - I am embarrased but want to straighten this out before I
>>>> turn gray (grayer!!)
>>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> If you have a folder called 'BACKUP' in your Quicken data folder,
>>> that's where the Quicken backups are. You say you "see" files
>>> called "QEL, DQF, IDX ", (probably mean QDF by the way). I doubt
>>> that's the full name. What you listed are the filetypes (ie: the 3
>>> letters after the dot in a filename) of Quicken files (like
>>> QDATA.QDF, QDATA.QEL, etc.). But one does NOT need to use the
>>> default filename (the letters in front of the dot) of 'QDATA'.
>>> Since I maintain 4 people's books on mine, I have four peoples
>>> names (like JOAN.*, BOB.*, TOM.* where * are the filetypes (eg:
>>> BOB.QEL, TOM.QDF, etc.) in mine. Maybe you too changed the default,
>>> thus you won't see 'QDATA.*' files either?
>>>
>>> So what's the *full* filenames of those .QEL, .QDF, .IDX , etc.
>>> files in your backup folder?
>>>
>>> (Am as I am sure you know, this BACKUP folder is the folder that
>>> Quicken uses for its automatic backups; you can also use any
>>> location you wish for backups that YOU create with the backup
>>> command (FILE-->BACKUP) where you get to 'browse' to select a
>>> directory to put your manual backups in.)
>>>
>>> --
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Regards -
>>>
>>> - Andrew
>>>
> I think you need to search for all "*.qdf" files (without the quotes)
> on your drive(s).
>
> A part of the names you provided looks like a backup file where you
> let Quicken add the date of the backup to the file(s), although my
> backup files look like "filename_20080410.QDF", for today's backup.
>
> I think the file(s) without the added date that are most recent are
> yor last modified file(s). Once you have the "filename.qdf" you will
> need to get all the files of the file set. Normally in the same
> folder, but I would also search for "filename.*". Note that the
> timestamps may not all be the same, because some files are left
> unchanged.
>
> I would make sure that you end up with just 1 directory of
> user-initiated backups, and not a whole bunch of nested backup
> folders.
>
> HTH!

Han's suggestion is good. Is your file you mentioned
"A-Name07_12312007KP.IDX" really "A-Name07_12312007BKP.IDX"? ( Note the
added 'B')? You need to be precise in what you are typing so avoid us going
down the wrong path.

It looks to me that your might be putting your initiated backups in the same
folder as Quicken's automatic backups. Quicken usually appends a single
digit to the end of the file name; so that a set of backups for a fileset
named 'JOE' would be something like:
JOE1.QDF, JOE1.QEL, JOE1.IDX,..., then the next automatic set would be
JOE2.QDF, JOE2.QEL, JOE2.IDX,...etc.

As Han said, you can allow Quicken to put a datestamp on the fileset (like
A-Name07_12312007BKP.QDF has in it.) But using the Joe example above, your
backup names would be something like JOE_20080113.QDF, JOE_20080113.QEL,
JOE_20080113.IDX, ...etc.

So you got me how those 'BKP' letters got appended to AFTER the datestamp
and before the filetype (as in A-Name07_12312007BKP.IDX). I wonder if you
happen to be using any sort of automatic backup software perhaps that
appends their own 'BKP' labels to filenames perhaps?

Do you remember specifically naming your fileset 'A-Name07' by the way
avoiding the QDATA default name?
--
-------------------------------------------------------------
Regards -

- Andrew



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