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Strange x64/Vista problem DP 11-24-2006
Posted by DP on November 24, 2006, 8:44 pm
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I've got Windows XP x64 and Vista dual booting. The other day, I
reinstalled Quicken (06, Basic) on the Vista partition. I already had it
working fine on
x64. As best I could tell, Quicken was working fine on both OSes at first.
I could open and save in x64 and then open in Vista and all the stuff I had
updated while in x64 is updated in Vista. And vice versa.

Now, however, Vista seems to be stuck on an old Quicken file, missing recent
transactions, etc. I even tried opening the Quicken file while in Vista by
double-clicking on the file that I KNOW is the working Quicken file and had
just been updated while under x64. But it still brings up the old file
(without the recent transactions). And when I closed out Quicken in Vista,
that file remained unchanged (the date of the last revision remained the
same). I could be wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure Quicken saves a
file you've opened up, even if you didn't make any changes in the file
itself. So the modification date should have been different, but it wasn't.

Anybody have any idea what might be going on here and what I might do to fix
things?

I realize a lot of you won't know anything about Vista. I'm just wondering
if you've come across a similar problem in the past in which Quicken appears
to be opening the correct file, but the data inside is out-of-date.
Especially intriguing is the fact I could apparently open and close Quicken
in Vista without causing the modified date of that file to change. And yes,
I did refresh the folder view to make sure.

I'm also exploring this issue with a newsgroup of Windows experts. If I find
out anything over there, I'll let this group know as well.




Posted by R. C. White on November 25, 2006, 10:06 pm
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Hi, DP.

How many Quicken folders do you have in your computer?

If you accepted the default when you installed Quicken in WinXP x64, Setup
would have installed it in C:Program Files (x86)QuickenW. Then, when you
installed Quicken again in Vista, the default location would have been
D:Program FilesQuickenW. Your drive letters may be different, but the
point is that you would now have TWO Quicken folders, completely independent
from each other. In that case, QW.exe running on D: would not be able to
see and read the *.ini files - and other configuration data - in the Quicken
folder on C:. And it would not be able to update the data in those files.

I've been dual-booting for nearly 10 years, including both x86 and x64
versions of nine builds of the Vista beta and now Vista RTM, and WinXP. And
I've installed the current Basic versions of Quicken 2005, 2006 and now 2007
in each of them. I've not had or heard of the problem you are seeing.

No matter which version of Windows/Vista I'm running, and no matter if it is
installed in Drive C:, D: or X:, I always install Quicken into E:QuickenW.
That way, the same Quicken configuration files are used and updated every
time I run the application. And I let Quicken keep my data files in that
same E:QuickenW folder.

My guess is that Quicken in Vista has no idea what Quicken in WinXP has done
to your file - and vice versa - because neither can see the QuickenW folder
being used by the other. It's not an x64 problem, or even a Vista problem.
It's a problem with your installation of multiple copies of Quicken.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Currently running Vista x64)

> I've got Windows XP x64 and Vista dual booting. The other day, I
> reinstalled Quicken (06, Basic) on the Vista partition. I already had it
> working fine on
> x64. As best I could tell, Quicken was working fine on both OSes at
> first.
> I could open and save in x64 and then open in Vista and all the stuff I
> had
> updated while in x64 is updated in Vista. And vice versa.
>
> Now, however, Vista seems to be stuck on an old Quicken file, missing
> recent
> transactions, etc. I even tried opening the Quicken file while in Vista by
> double-clicking on the file that I KNOW is the working Quicken file and
> had
> just been updated while under x64. But it still brings up the old file
> (without the recent transactions). And when I closed out Quicken in Vista,
> that file remained unchanged (the date of the last revision remained the
> same). I could be wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure Quicken saves a
> file you've opened up, even if you didn't make any changes in the file
> itself. So the modification date should have been different, but it
> wasn't.
>
> Anybody have any idea what might be going on here and what I might do to
> fix
> things?
>
> I realize a lot of you won't know anything about Vista. I'm just wondering
> if you've come across a similar problem in the past in which Quicken
> appears to be opening the correct file, but the data inside is
> out-of-date. Especially intriguing is the fact I could apparently open and
> close Quicken in Vista without causing the modified date of that file to
> change. And yes, I did refresh the folder view to make sure.
>
> I'm also exploring this issue with a newsgroup of Windows experts. If I
> find out anything over there, I'll let this group know as well.


Posted by DP on November 26, 2006, 12:29 am
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Your approach would be the logical first conclusion. But that is not the
case, as I said in my original post: "I even tried opening the Quicken file
while in Vista by double-clicking on the file that I KNOW is the working
Quicken file and had just been updated while under x64."
In other words, both Q installations point to the same datafile. I have now
tried going into x64 and going to that particular file in Windows Explorer,
double-clicking it and have it open in Quicken with everything up to date.
Then I'll go into Vista, go into the same file in the same location in
Windows Explorer, double click it and it comes up with outdated information.
It's like the two Quickens live in parallel, yet different, universes.




> Hi, DP.
>
> How many Quicken folders do you have in your computer?
>
> If you accepted the default when you installed Quicken in WinXP x64, Setup
> would have installed it in C:Program Files (x86)QuickenW. Then, when
> you installed Quicken again in Vista, the default location would have been
> D:Program FilesQuickenW. Your drive letters may be different, but the
> point is that you would now have TWO Quicken folders, completely
> independent from each other. In that case, QW.exe running on D: would not
> be able to see and read the *.ini files - and other configuration data -
> in the Quicken folder on C:. And it would not be able to update the data
> in those files.
>
> I've been dual-booting for nearly 10 years, including both x86 and x64
> versions of nine builds of the Vista beta and now Vista RTM, and WinXP.
> And I've installed the current Basic versions of Quicken 2005, 2006 and
> now 2007 in each of them. I've not had or heard of the problem you are
> seeing.
>
> No matter which version of Windows/Vista I'm running, and no matter if it
> is installed in Drive C:, D: or X:, I always install Quicken into
> E:QuickenW. That way, the same Quicken configuration files are used and
> updated every time I run the application. And I let Quicken keep my data
> files in that same E:QuickenW folder.
>
> My guess is that Quicken in Vista has no idea what Quicken in WinXP has
> done to your file - and vice versa - because neither can see the QuickenW
> folder being used by the other. It's not an x64 problem, or even a Vista
> problem. It's a problem with your installation of multiple copies of
> Quicken.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> (Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
> rc@grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Currently running Vista x64)
>
>> I've got Windows XP x64 and Vista dual booting. The other day, I
>> reinstalled Quicken (06, Basic) on the Vista partition. I already had it
>> working fine on
>> x64. As best I could tell, Quicken was working fine on both OSes at
>> first.
>> I could open and save in x64 and then open in Vista and all the stuff I
>> had
>> updated while in x64 is updated in Vista. And vice versa.
>>
>> Now, however, Vista seems to be stuck on an old Quicken file, missing
>> recent
>> transactions, etc. I even tried opening the Quicken file while in Vista
>> by
>> double-clicking on the file that I KNOW is the working Quicken file and
>> had
>> just been updated while under x64. But it still brings up the old file
>> (without the recent transactions). And when I closed out Quicken in
>> Vista,
>> that file remained unchanged (the date of the last revision remained the
>> same). I could be wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure Quicken saves a
>> file you've opened up, even if you didn't make any changes in the file
>> itself. So the modification date should have been different, but it
>> wasn't.
>>
>> Anybody have any idea what might be going on here and what I might do to
>> fix
>> things?
>>
>> I realize a lot of you won't know anything about Vista. I'm just
>> wondering if you've come across a similar problem in the past in which
>> Quicken appears to be opening the correct file, but the data inside is
>> out-of-date. Especially intriguing is the fact I could apparently open
>> and close Quicken in Vista without causing the modified date of that file
>> to change. And yes, I did refresh the folder view to make sure.
>>
>> I'm also exploring this issue with a newsgroup of Windows experts. If I
>> find out anything over there, I'll let this group know as well.
>



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