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The meaning of the "c" in investment transaction line. wawiddi 06-10-2006
Posted by John Pollard on June 13, 2006, 9:11 am
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> Sorry - I use Quicken premier 2006 R4, but it has always been
> so in
> 06P. The transactions are downloaded into an investment
> account and
> are classified as BuyX, SellX, DivX, etc. In all thes cases
> the
> transaction originates in the investment account. I'm still
> mad about
> the change they made in the transaction register, I think it's
> the
> pits.

Ok, I did a bit more testing. I see what might be a bug, but I
do not get the behaviour you described; possibly because I
created new accounts in a Q2006 file, I did not test with
accounts converted from an earlier version of Quicken.

In my case, the only account that gave me a problem was a Single
Mutual Fund account ... and then *only* if I failed to specify a
non-zero value for shares of the security that the fund would
hold when I first created the account.

In no case did Quicken prevent me from changing the
non-investment account transaction Clr field from space to "c";
but if the transaction was a transfer from a Single Mutual Fund
account that had not had non-zero shares of its security
specified at account creation, then, if I tried to change a "c"
to an "R", I got a message that Quicken "Cannot record transfer.
You do not have a position in the destination account". I got
that message even when I did have a position in the account - it
seemed to matter whether that position was established during
account creation.

And even in the above situation, a Quicken reconcile in the
non-investment account had no trouble changing the "c" to an
"R".

I tried the test with a plain Brokerage account and the problem
did not occur: specifically, I entered a BuyX in the investment
account, then successfully manually modified the resulting
checking account transaction to have an "R" in the "Clr" field.

[There is a "Clr" field equivalent in investment accounts -
though it's not so labelled; it's on the leftmost side of the
"register" and when you have a transaction selected, it appears
as an arrowhead pointing down. Click on the arrowhead and a "c"
and "R" (and a space) will appear; clicking one will make the
that the "Clr" status for that transaction. But, that won't
change the clr status in the other half of a transfer
transaction.]

[Intuit tried to improve the investment account "register" in
Q2006, but they didn't really accomplish their goal. They have
acknowledged that they still want to improve it, so I guess it's
just a matter of time. But I don't think your problem is a
result of the changed user interface for investment accounts.]



Posted by Bob Wang on June 13, 2006, 11:52 am
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John:

I use 2006 Premier H&B, and utilitze a separate linked Cash account for my
investment accounts.

When I get dividends "DivX" paid, the investment account transaction shows a
"c," but the linked Cash account does not.

If I try to manually change the downloaded dividend payment, I get the
following error message:


"You should make this change from the investment account to avoid losing
transaction detail. Click Go to Transfer from the Edit menu."


It's no big deal, since pretending to reconcile, checking the transaction,
and choosing "Finish Later," delivers the "c."

It's just a little odd to see transactions without a "c" when they are
downloaded via Direct Connect.

Ctrl-Copy reveals posting dates as being accurately recorded, the
transactions just don't have a "c" by them.

Bob



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