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Turbo Tax Deluxe 2008 az willie 02-08-2008
Posted by Jerry Boyle on February 9, 2008, 12:36 am
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>
>>> az willie wrote:
>>>> Every year TT has had me enter info from my broker's 1099-B form.
>>>>
>>>> This year I could not find a place to enter that data.
>>>>
>>>> I emailed and they said I would get an email within a few minutes
>>>> .... didn't happen.
>>>>
>>>> So today I called and, although they said it was a 60 minute wait,
>>>> they answered in less than 10 minutes...not too bad .... so far so
>>>> good.
>>>>
>>>> Girl tried to be helpful, but seemed to lack the mental horsepower
>>>> to understand the situtation. Finally she seemed to understand and
>>>> although she looked through both TT Deluxe forms and TT Premier
>>>> forms she couldn't find a 1099-B either.
>>>>
>>>> Finally she got a supervisor who claimed that it was no longer
>>>> required to enter the data from the broker's 1099-B.
>>>>
>>>> I find this hard to believe because in the past the program always
>>>> compared the amount on the brokers 1099-B to the amount on the
>>>> Schedule D and they had to match.
>>>>
>>>> The broker doesn't spend the money to send the form to me and the
>>>> government for nothing.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure, if my return was picked to be checked, they would compare
>>>> the 1099-B the broker filed against what my schedule D shows.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know if it is true and it is no longer necessary to enter the
>>>> broker's 1099-B info?
>>>>
>>>> If not, does anyone know where to find the 1099-B form, in either
>>>> Deluxe or Premier?
>>>>
>>>> I don't want to buy Premier if I don't have to ... but will if the
>>>> form is there.
>>>>
>>>> I have a feeling the missing 1099-B form is a serious bug.
>>>
>>> I have Deluxe, and of course you have to enter the data from your
>>> 1099-B! Did you answer the original question "Did you sell mutual
>>> funds or stocks during the year"? Possible if you didn't check YES,
>>> the interview process skips this. Also, simply go to the box SEARCH
>>> TOPICS OR FORMS and you'll see it listed in the drop down panel.
>>
>> Selecting a 1099-B entry from "Search Topics or Forms" takes you to an
>> interview topic or worksheet associated with that 1099-B topic. But
>> even in TT07 Premier there is no 1099-B form, as you'll see if you
>> select "Forms -> Open a Form...". Perhaps there was in past years, but
>> I know I've never used or needed it.
>>
>
> ==============
> When I go there and select 1099-B it just takes me to the Schedule D
> where I imported all the sales for the year. Which is wrong.
>
> When I use the Open Form I get a list of all the forms in TT and there is
> no 1099-B listed there.
>
> Good thing I'm already bald. :)

When you refer to your "1099-B", are you actually referring to a 1099
consolidated statement, which may contain forms 1099-B, 1099-INT, 1099-DIV,
1099-OID, 1099-MISC and perhaps other stuff I've never heard of. If the
latter, then you can find one or more entries for each, as well as many
entries for "1099 consolidated statement ..." in "Search Topics or Forms".
You can also use "Forms -> Open a Form..." to get to the appropriate form or
worksheet, or the appropriate interview section for each form individually.

For Form 1099-B itself TT07 Premier has 3 entries beginning "1099-b..." in
"Search Topics or Forms":

1099-b sales of stocks and bonds
1099-b, proceeds from broker and investments transactions
1099-b, tax withholding

The first item takes you to Schd D, which is where these items belong. I
know nothing about the other two items because they've never applied to me.

I'm no tax expert but in my very limited experience with relatively simple
tax situations I've detected little or no IRS or state interest in the
Federal ID # of any of my employers, brokers, banks or IRA custodians unless
taxes were withheld from the proceeds. If this info is indeed still required
for 2007 tax returns, my guess is that clicking on "1099-b, tax withholding"
will take you to a place where you can enter it.

As far as entering data on Form B, I think we've established that it isn't
gonna happen with this year's TurboTax. You'll have to compare your broker's
totals and tax return totals manually. I've never seen it, perhaps because
my
tax situation never required it. Are you sure you saw it in TurboTax and not
another tax program?

Also, did you read the instructions that came with your broker's statement?
I still haven't gotten mine yet, but last year's told me exactly where each
Form 1099-B item went on my return.

Tax experts please point out any errors or questionable assertions that I've
made and not pointed out.


Posted by Andrew on February 9, 2008, 10:01 pm
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Jerry Boyle wrote:
>> az willie wrote:
>>> Every year TT has had me enter info from my broker's 1099-B form.
>>>
>>> This year I could not find a place to enter that data.
>>>
>>> I emailed and they said I would get an email within a few minutes
>>> .... didn't happen.
>>>
>>> So today I called and, although they said it was a 60 minute wait,
>>> they answered in less than 10 minutes...not too bad .... so far so
>>> good.
>>>
>>> Girl tried to be helpful, but seemed to lack the mental horsepower
>>> to understand the situtation. Finally she seemed to understand and
>>> although she looked through both TT Deluxe forms and TT Premier
>>> forms she couldn't find a 1099-B either.
>>>
>>> Finally she got a supervisor who claimed that it was no longer
>>> required to enter the data from the broker's 1099-B.
>>>
>>> I find this hard to believe because in the past the program always
>>> compared the amount on the brokers 1099-B to the amount on the
>>> Schedule D and they had to match.
>>>
>>> The broker doesn't spend the money to send the form to me and the
>>> government for nothing.
>>>
>>> I'm sure, if my return was picked to be checked, they would compare
>>> the 1099-B the broker filed against what my schedule D shows.
>>>
>>> Anyone know if it is true and it is no longer necessary to enter the
>>> broker's 1099-B info?
>>>
>>> If not, does anyone know where to find the 1099-B form, in either
>>> Deluxe or Premier?
>>>
>>> I don't want to buy Premier if I don't have to ... but will if the
>>> form is there.
>>>
>>> I have a feeling the missing 1099-B form is a serious bug.
>>
>> I have Deluxe, and of course you have to enter the data from your
>> 1099-B! Did you answer the original question "Did you sell mutual
>> funds or stocks during the year"? Possible if you didn't check YES,
>> the interview process skips this. Also, simply go to the box SEARCH
>> TOPICS OR FORMS and you'll see it listed in the drop down panel.
>
> Selecting a 1099-B entry from "Search Topics or Forms" takes you to an
> interview topic or worksheet associated with that 1099-B topic. But
> even in TT07 Premier there is no 1099-B form, as you'll see if you
> select "Forms -> Open a Form...". Perhaps there was in past years,
> but I know I've never used or needed it.

The interview for 1099-B in Turbotax specifically relates to the information
provided by 1099-B. It asks
for Box 7, Box 2, Box 7A, etc.

His two points were: "Every year TT has had me enter info from my broker's
1099-B form." and "This year I could not find a place to enter that data."

The data input screen is clearly there. It says "Tell us how you want to
enter the information on this investment sale (usually reported on Form
1099-B)."
What is so hard to understand about this, and why did the OP spend so long
on the phone with TT? Geez.

--
-------------------------------------------------------------
Regards -

- Andrew



Posted by az willie on February 8, 2008, 7:38 pm
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> az willie wrote:
>> Every year TT has had me enter info from my broker's 1099-B form.
>>
>> This year I could not find a place to enter that data.
>>
>> I emailed and they said I would get an email within a few minutes
>> .... didn't happen.
>>
>> So today I called and, although they said it was a 60 minute wait,
>> they answered in less than 10 minutes...not too bad .... so far so
>> good.
>>
>> Girl tried to be helpful, but seemed to lack the mental horsepower to
>> understand the situtation. Finally she seemed to understand and
>> although she looked through both TT Deluxe forms and TT Premier forms
>> she couldn't find a 1099-B either.
>>
>> Finally she got a supervisor who claimed that it was no longer
>> required to enter the data from the broker's 1099-B.
>>
>> I find this hard to believe because in the past the program always
>> compared the amount on the brokers 1099-B to the amount on the
>> Schedule D and they had to match.
>>
>> The broker doesn't spend the money to send the form to me and the
>> government for nothing.
>>
>> I'm sure, if my return was picked to be checked, they would compare
>> the 1099-B the broker filed against what my schedule D shows.
>>
>> Anyone know if it is true and it is no longer necessary to enter the
>> broker's 1099-B info?
>>
>> If not, does anyone know where to find the 1099-B form, in either
>> Deluxe or Premier?
>>
>> I don't want to buy Premier if I don't have to ... but will if the
>> form is there.
>>
>> I have a feeling the missing 1099-B form is a serious bug.
>
> I have Deluxe, and of course you have to enter the data from your
> 1099-B! Did you answer the original question "Did you sell mutual
> funds or stocks during the year"? Possible if you didn't check YES,
> the interview process skips this. Also, simply go to the box SEARCH
> TOPICS OR FORMS and you'll see it listed in the drop down panel.
>

===============
Yes I do see it there, and when I click on it it takes me to the Schedule
D where you enter all your transactions. It does NOT take me to a form to
enter the brokers name and federal id # and proceeds from all sales which
is the figure it used to use to compare to the total on the schedule D.

When I go to the forms tab and select open form I get a list of forms and
1099-B is not on the list.

Entering the proceeds shown on the 1099-B on the Schedule D would be
wrong wrong wrong wrong. That would just double the total proceeds ins
tead of comparing the two figures.

I imported all my stock transactions into my Schedule D when I started
the process. I chose to Select Specific Topics when I started the return
rather than endure the unending questions about stuff that has no
relevance to my return at all. After several years of using TT I have a
pretty good idea what I have to do.

Perhaps if I started another return and went through the agony of all
that crap it would present me the form but I doubt it because according
to the list of forms there is no 1099-B in there.

The girl at TT didn't find the 1099-B form listed in either Deluxe or
Premier editions and, after about an hour of her trying to figure out
where to enter the info she finally gave up and got a supervisor who told
her it was no longer required to enter the 1099-B info.

Which I think is a crock of (*it.

Maybe I will call the IRS next week and see if I can get through the
phone gauntlet and get a live human being who can maybe tell me if the
supervisor is right or not. Hell, I'm retired I got nothing else to do
but fight the phone all week trying to get through the maze :)

Posted by D.Duck on February 8, 2008, 11:01 pm
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>
>> az willie wrote:
>>> Every year TT has had me enter info from my broker's 1099-B form.
>>>
>>> This year I could not find a place to enter that data.
>>>
>>> I emailed and they said I would get an email within a few minutes
>>> .... didn't happen.
>>>
>>> So today I called and, although they said it was a 60 minute wait,
>>> they answered in less than 10 minutes...not too bad .... so far so
>>> good.
>>>
>>> Girl tried to be helpful, but seemed to lack the mental horsepower to
>>> understand the situtation. Finally she seemed to understand and
>>> although she looked through both TT Deluxe forms and TT Premier forms
>>> she couldn't find a 1099-B either.
>>>
>>> Finally she got a supervisor who claimed that it was no longer
>>> required to enter the data from the broker's 1099-B.
>>>
>>> I find this hard to believe because in the past the program always
>>> compared the amount on the brokers 1099-B to the amount on the
>>> Schedule D and they had to match.
>>>
>>> The broker doesn't spend the money to send the form to me and the
>>> government for nothing.
>>>
>>> I'm sure, if my return was picked to be checked, they would compare
>>> the 1099-B the broker filed against what my schedule D shows.
>>>
>>> Anyone know if it is true and it is no longer necessary to enter the
>>> broker's 1099-B info?
>>>
>>> If not, does anyone know where to find the 1099-B form, in either
>>> Deluxe or Premier?
>>>
>>> I don't want to buy Premier if I don't have to ... but will if the
>>> form is there.
>>>
>>> I have a feeling the missing 1099-B form is a serious bug.
>>
>> I have Deluxe, and of course you have to enter the data from your
>> 1099-B! Did you answer the original question "Did you sell mutual
>> funds or stocks during the year"? Possible if you didn't check YES,
>> the interview process skips this. Also, simply go to the box SEARCH
>> TOPICS OR FORMS and you'll see it listed in the drop down panel.
>>
>
> ===============
> Yes I do see it there, and when I click on it it takes me to the Schedule
> D where you enter all your transactions. It does NOT take me to a form to
> enter the brokers name and federal id # and proceeds from all sales which
> is the figure it used to use to compare to the total on the schedule D.
>
> When I go to the forms tab and select open form I get a list of forms and
> 1099-B is not on the list.
>
> Entering the proceeds shown on the 1099-B on the Schedule D would be
> wrong wrong wrong wrong. That would just double the total proceeds ins
> tead of comparing the two figures.
>
> I imported all my stock transactions into my Schedule D when I started
> the process. I chose to Select Specific Topics when I started the return
> rather than endure the unending questions about stuff that has no
> relevance to my return at all. After several years of using TT I have a
> pretty good idea what I have to do.
>
> Perhaps if I started another return and went through the agony of all
> that crap it would present me the form but I doubt it because according
> to the list of forms there is no 1099-B in there.
>
> The girl at TT didn't find the 1099-B form listed in either Deluxe or
> Premier editions and, after about an hour of her trying to figure out
> where to enter the info she finally gave up and got a supervisor who told
> her it was no longer required to enter the 1099-B info.
>
> Which I think is a crock of (*it.
>
> Maybe I will call the IRS next week and see if I can get through the
> phone gauntlet and get a live human being who can maybe tell me if the
> supervisor is right or not. Hell, I'm retired I got nothing else to do
> but fight the phone all week trying to get through the maze :)

You MUST enter your 1099-B info which is nothing more than a record of your
of the stocks, bonds, mutual funds, etc that you sold.

Another caveat, make sure you enter the dates and lot sizes EXACTLY as shown
on the 1099-B. Two years ago I received a bill from the IRS for over $40K.
The reason was that when they compared the broker data and the data on my
return, they didn't match. To minimize entries I lumped some lots from a
single sale together therefore causing the data to not match. The sum total
of the stuff I entered was correct but it didn't jive with the way the
broker reported to the IRS.

Gave me a sweat for a while and long explanation to the IRS. All was
finally accepted when I entered the data to match "exactly" the way the
brokers reported to the IRS.



Posted by az willie on February 8, 2008, 11:57 pm
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>>
>>> az willie wrote:
>>>> Every year TT has had me enter info from my broker's 1099-B form.
>>>>
>>>> This year I could not find a place to enter that data.
>>>>
>>>> I emailed and they said I would get an email within a few minutes
>>>> .... didn't happen.
>>>>
>>>> So today I called and, although they said it was a 60 minute wait,
>>>> they answered in less than 10 minutes...not too bad .... so far so
>>>> good.
>>>>
>>>> Girl tried to be helpful, but seemed to lack the mental horsepower
>>>> to understand the situtation. Finally she seemed to understand and
>>>> although she looked through both TT Deluxe forms and TT Premier
>>>> forms she couldn't find a 1099-B either.
>>>>
>>>> Finally she got a supervisor who claimed that it was no longer
>>>> required to enter the data from the broker's 1099-B.
>>>>
>>>> I find this hard to believe because in the past the program always
>>>> compared the amount on the brokers 1099-B to the amount on the
>>>> Schedule D and they had to match.
>>>>
>>>> The broker doesn't spend the money to send the form to me and the
>>>> government for nothing.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure, if my return was picked to be checked, they would compare
>>>> the 1099-B the broker filed against what my schedule D shows.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know if it is true and it is no longer necessary to enter
>>>> the broker's 1099-B info?
>>>>
>>>> If not, does anyone know where to find the 1099-B form, in either
>>>> Deluxe or Premier?
>>>>
>>>> I don't want to buy Premier if I don't have to ... but will if the
>>>> form is there.
>>>>
>>>> I have a feeling the missing 1099-B form is a serious bug.
>>>
>>> I have Deluxe, and of course you have to enter the data from your
>>> 1099-B! Did you answer the original question "Did you sell mutual
>>> funds or stocks during the year"? Possible if you didn't check YES,
>>> the interview process skips this. Also, simply go to the box SEARCH
>>> TOPICS OR FORMS and you'll see it listed in the drop down panel.
>>>
>>
>> ===============
>> Yes I do see it there, and when I click on it it takes me to the
>> Schedule D where you enter all your transactions. It does NOT take me
>> to a form to enter the brokers name and federal id # and proceeds
>> from all sales which is the figure it used to use to compare to the
>> total on the schedule D.
>>
>> When I go to the forms tab and select open form I get a list of forms
>> and 1099-B is not on the list.
>>
>> Entering the proceeds shown on the 1099-B on the Schedule D would be
>> wrong wrong wrong wrong. That would just double the total proceeds
>> ins tead of comparing the two figures.
>>
>> I imported all my stock transactions into my Schedule D when I
>> started the process. I chose to Select Specific Topics when I started
>> the return rather than endure the unending questions about stuff that
>> has no relevance to my return at all. After several years of using TT
>> I have a pretty good idea what I have to do.
>>
>> Perhaps if I started another return and went through the agony of all
>> that crap it would present me the form but I doubt it because
>> according to the list of forms there is no 1099-B in there.
>>
>> The girl at TT didn't find the 1099-B form listed in either Deluxe or
>> Premier editions and, after about an hour of her trying to figure out
>> where to enter the info she finally gave up and got a supervisor who
>> told her it was no longer required to enter the 1099-B info.
>>
>> Which I think is a crock of (*it.
>>
>> Maybe I will call the IRS next week and see if I can get through the
>> phone gauntlet and get a live human being who can maybe tell me if
>> the supervisor is right or not. Hell, I'm retired I got nothing else
>> to do but fight the phone all week trying to get through the maze :)
>
> You MUST enter your 1099-B info which is nothing more than a record of
> your of the stocks, bonds, mutual funds, etc that you sold.
>
> Another caveat, make sure you enter the dates and lot sizes EXACTLY as
> shown on the 1099-B. Two years ago I received a bill from the IRS for
> over $40K. The reason was that when they compared the broker data and
> the data on my return, they didn't match. To minimize entries I
> lumped some lots from a single sale together therefore causing the
> data to not match. The sum total of the stuff I entered was correct
> but it didn't jive with the way the broker reported to the IRS.
>
> Gave me a sweat for a while and long explanation to the IRS. All was
> finally accepted when I entered the data to match "exactly" the way
> the brokers reported to the IRS.
>
>
>

==============
Not quite. The 1099-B info is more than a record of your sales. It has
the broker name and their federal id # as well as the sum of the proceeds
from your trades. Depending on the broker there can be other info also.

The Schedule D is where you enter the record of your trades ... not the
1099-B.

We are in agreement though that the 1099-B has to match the sums on the
Schedule D.

I received an email awhile ago from the girl who was trying to help me
and she sent me a phone number to call another department.

I gotta say she tried hard to help but it was obvious she was in over her
head when it came to TT and investments. I have grave doubts about what
her supervisor told her to tell me also.

So next week I will call the number she sent and see if I can get better
resolution of the question.

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