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Update troubles Rock 12-13-2007
Posted by Rock on December 13, 2007, 4:59 am
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Hi,

I have the Australian version 7.41 I think it is after a couple of updates and
it works fine with about 5 years of our books on it.

I have just bought a new bigger HD and want to upgrade to a Quicken 2003 I had
bought new some time ago but never wanted to face the upgrade problems with it,
so it is still unused and ready to go. Even now I am not looking forward to
going up to 7.5 then 7.6 then 2002 then finally to 2003.

I have been looking for my original QB 7 CD but for the life of me can't find
it. As I said I have it still running fine on the current HD but want to get it
and the upgrade onto the bigger drive.

As I still have all my registrations, group and other numbers can I somehow get
another copy of 7 so I can upgrade?

May sound naive but I have looked everywhere and can't find it as well as the
manual which was with the CD.

Is there any help out there for me please?

rock

Posted by R. C. White on December 13, 2007, 9:17 am
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Hi, Rock.

I have no familiarity at all with the AU or any non-US version of Quicken,
but...WHY do you need to "upgrade" at all? Why not simply install the 2003
version on the new HD, then let it convert your old data fileset as it loads
it from the old source into the new Quicken. Then save the converted file
onto your new HD (or wherever you choose) and go from there, with no need to
look back. And no need for your older CD or documentation.

In the US, at least, each new year's version of Quicken is a complete
package. If it finds an older Quicken during installation, it simply
uninstalls the old before installing the new - while preserving a copy of
the data fileset, of course, then converting the data for use in the updated
Quicken.

As I recall, several years ago (in the prior millennium), Quicken was
available in both upgrade and full versions each year. But that has not
been the case here in a long time. All we see on the store shelves are full
versions; no upgrade versions anymore. Check the box for your Quicken 2003;
it probably doesn't care whether any earlier version is installed.

The only fly in this ointment is that the format of the data fileset has
evolved over the years, and some very old data cannot be successfully
imported into much-later versions. If the 2003 version cannot import your
old data, then you might need to install an interim version temporarily to
provide a bridge for just that limited purpose. I've not seen this problem
personally, but the problem and solution have been reported here many times.

Let us know what you learn. Others will be interested, I'm sure.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Currently running Quicken 2008 Deluxe in Vista Ultimate x64)

> Hi,
>
> I have the Australian version 7.41 I think it is after a couple of updates
> and it works fine with about 5 years of our books on it.
>
> I have just bought a new bigger HD and want to upgrade to a Quicken 2003 I
> had bought new some time ago but never wanted to face the upgrade problems
> with it, so it is still unused and ready to go. Even now I am not looking
> forward to going up to 7.5 then 7.6 then 2002 then finally to 2003.
>
> I have been looking for my original QB 7 CD but for the life of me can't
> find it. As I said I have it still running fine on the current HD but want
> to get it and the upgrade onto the bigger drive.
>
> As I still have all my registrations, group and other numbers can I
> somehow get another copy of 7 so I can upgrade?
>
> May sound naive but I have looked everywhere and can't find it as well as
> the manual which was with the CD.
>
> Is there any help out there for me please?
>
> rock


Posted by Rock on December 13, 2007, 3:22 pm
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R. C. White wrote:
> Hi, Rock.
>
> I have no familiarity at all with the AU or any non-US version of
> Quicken, but...WHY do you need to "upgrade" at all? Why not simply
> install the 2003 version on the new HD, then let it convert your old
> data fileset as it loads it from the old source into the new Quicken.
> Then save the converted file onto your new HD (or wherever you choose)
> and go from there, with no need to look back. And no need for your
> older CD or documentation.
>
> In the US, at least, each new year's version of Quicken is a complete
> package. If it finds an older Quicken during installation, it simply
> uninstalls the old before installing the new - while preserving a copy
> of the data fileset, of course, then converting the data for use in the
> updated Quicken.
>
> As I recall, several years ago (in the prior millennium), Quicken was
> available in both upgrade and full versions each year. But that has not
> been the case here in a long time. All we see on the store shelves are
> full versions; no upgrade versions anymore. Check the box for your
> Quicken 2003; it probably doesn't care whether any earlier version is
> installed.
>
> The only fly in this ointment is that the format of the data fileset has
> evolved over the years, and some very old data cannot be successfully
> imported into much-later versions. If the 2003 version cannot import
> your old data, then you might need to install an interim version
> temporarily to provide a bridge for just that limited purpose. I've not
> seen this problem personally, but the problem and solution have been
> reported here many times.
>
> Let us know what you learn. Others will be interested, I'm sure.
>
> RC


Thank you RC.

Yes the new 2003 is an upgrade because when I tried ti install it on the new
drive, it said it couldn't find a registered version so it shut down. Mind
you, I didn't have the old drive connected with the running version of 7.4
which I have so maybe if it found that it would have gone on. I will go and
try that as soon as I get the time.

I ran the old version last night and it said it was 7.4 for windows and I have
the Reg, Serial and Group numbers which show on the panel.

Do you happen to know if there are other quicken places I can go on the net to
try some help as I am up the creek at least $300 for the 2003 version if I
can't use it.

If I can't find my original 7.4 CDs and as my version is Australian with its
GST tax, I guess I am stuck with having to have an Aussie new one, otherwise I
would buy the cheaper US early version which sometimes come up on Ebay then
upgrade from that.

It is such a pain. I wonder if there is a conversion from QB 7.4 to MYOB as
they seem to be much more user friendly. Ever since I started QB years ago, it
has been a pain to upgrade. They seem absolutely paranoid about whether the
copy is genuine so make it so hard for those of us who are straight.

Anyway I'm rambling now...

I will go and hook up the old drive to see if it finds it this time.

I would appreciate any more help please as I wanted to start the new version on
Jan 1.

Thanks



rock










Posted by Rock on December 13, 2007, 4:15 pm
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Well I hooked up the old drive with the working 7.4 on it, but when trying to
setup the 2003 upgrade it said it couldn't find a registered copy and canceled
again.

I wonder what files it looks for to see whether or not there is a version
there. If it goes to the registry I'm stuffed but I wonder if I copy the
entire INET folder over to the new one to see if it will recognize it then
upgrade.

Anyone with any ideas on how to do this?

Thanks

rock

Posted by R. C. White on December 13, 2007, 5:29 pm
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Hi, Rock.

Sorry, but as I said, I have no experience at all with non-US versions of
Quicken. There are several Aussies in this newsgroup, though, so maybe one
of them will spot this thread and contribute. If you don’t get a response
in a day or two, you might start a new thread with a Subject that mentions
Australia and see if that attracts the right kind of attention.

Many upgrade versions of programs will allow the upgrade if we just let it
"see" the CD for the qualifying version, but that won't help in your case
since that CD is what you are missing. My only remaining suggestion is to
see if you can find a qualifying CD on eBay for a price low enough to make
it worthwhile to get that and use it to get past Quicken 2003's upgrade
"gatekeeper".

Good luck!

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Currently running Quicken 2008 Deluxe in Vista Ultimate x64)

> Well I hooked up the old drive with the working 7.4 on it, but when trying
> to setup the 2003 upgrade it said it couldn't find a registered copy and
> canceled again.
>
> I wonder what files it looks for to see whether or not there is a version
> there. If it goes to the registry I'm stuffed but I wonder if I copy the
> entire INET folder over to the new one to see if it will recognize it then
> upgrade.
>
> Anyone with any ideas on how to do this?
>
> Thanks
>
> rock


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