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Updating H&B 2008 to H&B 2009 jo 10-10-2009
Posted by jo on October 10, 2009, 2:07 pm
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I usually upgrade to the current release just before the next one is
about to come out because a)I can get it cheapily from Ebay and b) I
figure the major problems have been resolved so I won't have to deal
with them.

Is there anything about H&B 2009 that is a major difference from 2008
or that still causes problems? I'm running on an old slow XP system,
but am used to the speed issues. I'm more concerned with data
integrity, withdrawn features, known problems, etc. Also, can I
install it without uninstalling V2008 (I think 2008 automatically
removed 2006 last year, which I wasn't very happy about but didn't
cause any problems). Are there any improvements at all? (I keep
hoping bugs will be fixed but I'm not holding my breath).

Any cautions or advice would be appreciated.

jo

Posted by jo on October 14, 2009, 12:26 pm
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> I usually upgrade to the current release just before the next one is
> about to come out because a)I can get it cheapily from Ebay and b) I
> figure the major problems have been resolved so I won't have to deal
> with them.
>
> Is there anything about H&B 2009 that is a major difference from 2008
> or that still causes problems? =A0I'm running on an old slow XP system,
> but am used to the speed issues. =A0I'm more concerned with data
> integrity, withdrawn features, known problems, etc. =A0Also, can I
> install it without uninstalling V2008 (I think 2008 automatically
> removed 2006 last year, which I wasn't very happy about but didn't
> cause any problems). =A0Are there any improvements at all? (I keep
> hoping bugs will be fixed but I'm not holding my breath).
>
> Any cautions or advice would be appreciated.
>
> jo

Ok, guys, I know everyone is focused on version 2010, but I just
bought 2009 for 19.99 on Ebay and would really like to know the
nuances of installing it so that I can still run V2008 for cross
checking (if possible), or any other danger areas I should be on the
watch for. I'm not doing anything very sophisticated but do have
lots of investment transactions and other types going back about 10
years.

There has been one big bug in saving reports that has been carried
over for several years. I can't describe it precisely but it has to
do with ending up with 2 reports saved with the same name, instead of
the newer version replacing the older. Then you lose both when you
delete either one of them. Has this been fixed in 2009?

jo

Posted by Bob Wang on October 14, 2009, 1:04 pm
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jo:
There used to be an annoying bug where a new report was created when I
modified an existing report.
I used to toggle between "Customize creates new" and "Customize modifies"
to have Quicken ONLY modify.
I can't recall having to do that in months, so that quirk must have been
corrected in Q2009, or one of the updates.
This may not be the same bug you are experiencing.
Bob


Posted by jo on October 14, 2009, 3:26 pm
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> jo:
> There used to be an annoying bug where a new report was created when I
> modified an existing report.
> I used to toggle between =A0"Customize creates new" and "Customize modifi=
es"
> to have Quicken ONLY modify.
> I can't recall having to do that in months, so that quirk must have been
> corrected in Q2009, or one of the updates.
> This may not be the same bug you are experiencing.
> Bob

Hi Bob,

I think that is at least part of the bug. As John describes it below,
the trick is to not use user folders. Kinda defeats any attempt to
organize oneself, but at least I can still operate. It would be nice
to find it fixed in v2009.

jo

Posted by John Pollard on October 14, 2009, 1:42 pm
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jo wrote:
>> I usually upgrade to the current release just before the next one is
>> about to come out because a)I can get it cheapily from Ebay and b) I
>> figure the major problems have been resolved so I won't have to deal
>> with them.
>>
>> Is there anything about H&B 2009 that is a major difference from 2008
>> or that still causes problems? I'm running on an old slow XP system,
>> but am used to the speed issues. I'm more concerned with data
>> integrity, withdrawn features, known problems, etc. Also, can I
>> install it without uninstalling V2008 (I think 2008 automatically
>> removed 2006 last year, which I wasn't very happy about but didn't
>> cause any problems). Are there any improvements at all? (I keep
>> hoping bugs will be fixed but I'm not holding my breath).
>>
>> Any cautions or advice would be appreciated.

> Ok, guys, I know everyone is focused on version 2010, but I just
> bought 2009 for 19.99 on Ebay and would really like to know the
> nuances of installing it so that I can still run V2008 for cross
> checking (if possible), or any other danger areas I should be on the
> watch for. I'm not doing anything very sophisticated but do have
> lots of investment transactions and other types going back about 10
> years.

I refrained from answering because although I have Q2009 RPM, I only use
it for testing.

Even though sometime around Q2006, Quicken started defaulting to deleting
older versions when newer versions were installed, there has always been a
way to prevent that: hold down CTRL+SHIFT when clicking on the first
clickable button you get during install.

Up until Q2009, having two versions installed produced only relatively
minor glitches.

Having Q2009 installed with any other versions creates more significant
glitches, including actually changing the version level (ie: Home &
Business could get changed to Deluxe); and interferring with features that
utilized the internet. The most recently installed version would be
"relatively" unphased, the other version could be severely hampered.

Quite a few experienced users posted here when Q2009 came out, saying they
didn't find any serious flaws. Some users did find such flaws, though to
the best of my knowledge and recollection, none were "reproduceable",
leaving open the question of the cause of the problems.

There have been 6 releases to Q2009 so far, and one more is known to be on
the way soon ... before the end of the month, it is suggested by Intuit.
So certainly some problems in Q2009 have already been addressed; and
although I believe the main purpose of R7 will be to incorporate the new
Money Converter directly into Q2009, I am unusually hopeful that a couple
more problems will be fixed when R7 is installed.

I would also expect some users to run into problems if they use Vista or
Windows 7 ... not necessarily due to any bugs in Quicken or the os, but
because Vista and Windows 7 are different from, and stricter in granting
access than, Windows XP. And the fact that, I believe, there are still
some devices that do not have bug-free Vista/Windows 7 drivers.

> There has been one big bug in saving reports that has been carried
> over for several years. I can't describe it precisely but it has to
> do with ending up with 2 reports saved with the same name, instead of
> the newer version replacing the older. Then you lose both when you
> delete either one of them. Has this been fixed in 2009?

I can't tell you whether there were any improvements to this problem in
Q2009, but it is not totally solved: you can still see the problem, if you
Save to user created folders. You can avoid the problem by not saving
reports to any user created report folders [always Save to "None (My Saved
Reports)".]

--

John Pollard




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