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Vanguard Services still not getting reinvested dividends correct Andrew 08-08-2009
Posted by Han on August 11, 2009, 8:29 am
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> Han wrote:
>> ...
>
> Wow! OK - thanks for your two posts anyway. Even if one has to
> manually edit the transactions (I admit I do a lot of that as well),
> at LEAST having the numbers correct for fractional shares is a head
> start of cutting and pasting from the website; at least for me.
>
> But I do hear both of you. Again, thanks for listening!
>

Andrew, I thought you shoudl have heard the solution to the frational
shares problems. NEVER, ever enter the price per share into Quicken. It
logically follows from the total price paid (commissions and fees excluded)
and the total number of shares in the transaction. This assumes (yes I
know) that the total number of shares is displyed/downloaded correctly.

--
Best regards
Han
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Posted by Andrew on August 11, 2009, 5:54 pm
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Han wrote:
>
>> Han wrote:
>>> ...
>>
>> Wow! OK - thanks for your two posts anyway. Even if one has to
>> manually edit the transactions (I admit I do a lot of that as well),
>> at LEAST having the numbers correct for fractional shares is a head
>> start of cutting and pasting from the website; at least for me.
>>
>> But I do hear both of you. Again, thanks for listening!
>>
>
> Andrew, I thought you shoudl have heard the solution to the frational
> shares problems. NEVER, ever enter the price per share into Quicken.
> It logically follows from the total price paid (commissions and fees
> excluded) and the total number of shares in the transaction. This
> assumes (yes I know) that the total number of shares is
> displyed/downloaded correctly.

Sure, I know this. In the old (ie: Pershing days), a correct purchase
transaction was indeed downloaded to Quicken correctly with the fractional
shares included in the transaction. That's the part that doesn't exist
anymore! Now I have to do that manually.

(Actually Han, I can't understand why you thought I didn't know that from my
post? No where did I say I was entering the price per share....)
--
-------------------------------------------------------------
Regards -

- Andrew



Posted by Han on August 11, 2009, 6:30 pm
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> Han wrote:
>>
>>> Han wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>
>>> Wow! OK - thanks for your two posts anyway. Even if one has to
>>> manually edit the transactions (I admit I do a lot of that as well),
>>> at LEAST having the numbers correct for fractional shares is a head
>>> start of cutting and pasting from the website; at least for me.
>>>
>>> But I do hear both of you. Again, thanks for listening!
>>>
>>
>> Andrew, I thought you shoudl have heard the solution to the frational
>> shares problems. NEVER, ever enter the price per share into Quicken.
>> It logically follows from the total price paid (commissions and fees
>> excluded) and the total number of shares in the transaction. This
>> assumes (yes I know) that the total number of shares is
>> displyed/downloaded correctly.
>
> Sure, I know this. In the old (ie: Pershing days), a correct purchase
> transaction was indeed downloaded to Quicken correctly with the
> fractional shares included in the transaction. That's the part that
> doesn't exist anymore! Now I have to do that manually.
>
> (Actually Han, I can't understand why you thought I didn't know that
> from my post? No where did I say I was entering the price per
> share....)

You confused me <grin>. I sure thought that you knew this, but still
mentioned something about "having the numbers correct for fractional
shares". I then thought it might be best (at least for others) to
reiterate the never enter price per share statement.

--
Best regards
Han
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Posted by Andrew on August 11, 2009, 7:25 pm
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Han wrote:
>
>> Han wrote:
>>>
>>>> Han wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> Wow! OK - thanks for your two posts anyway. Even if one has to
>>>> manually edit the transactions (I admit I do a lot of that as
>>>> well), at LEAST having the numbers correct for fractional shares
>>>> is a head start of cutting and pasting from the website; at least
>>>> for me.
>>>>
>>>> But I do hear both of you. Again, thanks for listening!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Andrew, I thought you shoudl have heard the solution to the
>>> frational shares problems. NEVER, ever enter the price per share
>>> into Quicken. It logically follows from the total price paid
>>> (commissions and fees excluded) and the total number of shares in
>>> the transaction. This assumes (yes I know) that the total number
>>> of shares is displyed/downloaded correctly.
>>
>> Sure, I know this. In the old (ie: Pershing days), a correct
>> purchase transaction was indeed downloaded to Quicken correctly with
>> the fractional shares included in the transaction. That's the part
>> that doesn't exist anymore! Now I have to do that manually.
>>
>> (Actually Han, I can't understand why you thought I didn't know that
>> from my post? No where did I say I was entering the price per
>> share....)
>
> You confused me <grin>. I sure thought that you knew this, but still
> mentioned something about "having the numbers correct for fractional
> shares". I then thought it might be best (at least for others) to
> reiterate the never enter price per share statement.

Gotcha. When I said 'fractional shares', I really meant the number of
shares (not the PPP) down to the 5 decimal point accuracy (or is it 4?) that
I used to get automagically. Now cut and paste as we discussed is the way
to go until VBS gets it's act together.

--
-------------------------------------------------------------
Regards -

- Andrew



Posted by Oilcan on August 11, 2009, 9:07 pm
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> Han wrote:
>
> >> Han wrote:
>
> >>>> Han wrote:
> >>>>> ...
>
> >>>> Wow! =A0OK - thanks for your two posts anyway. =A0Even if one has to
> >>>> manually edit the transactions (I admit I do a lot of that as
> >>>> well), at LEAST having the numbers correct for fractional shares
> >>>> is a head start of cutting and pasting from the website; at least
> >>>> for me.
>
> >>>> But I do hear both of you. =A0Again, thanks for listening!
>
> >>> Andrew, I thought you shoudl have heard the solution to the
> >>> frational shares problems. =A0NEVER, ever enter the price per share
> >>> into Quicken. It logically follows from the total price paid
> >>> (commissions and fees excluded) and the total number of shares in
> >>> the transaction. =A0This assumes (yes I know) that the total number
> >>> of shares is displyed/downloaded correctly.
>
> >> Sure, I know this. =A0In the old (ie: Pershing days), a correct
> >> purchase transaction was indeed downloaded to Quicken correctly with
> >> the fractional shares included in the transaction. That's the part
> >> that doesn't exist anymore! =A0Now I have to do that manually.
>
> >> (Actually Han, I can't understand why you thought I didn't know that
> >> from my post? =A0No where did I say I was entering the price per
> >> share....)
>
> > You confused me <grin>. =A0I sure thought that you knew this, but still
> > mentioned something about "having the numbers correct for fractional
> > shares". =A0I then thought it might be best (at least for others) to
> > reiterate the never enter price per share statement.
>
> Gotcha. =A0When I said 'fractional shares', I really meant the number of
> shares (not the PPP) down to the 5 decimal point accuracy (or is it 4?) t=
hat
> I used to get automagically. =A0Now cut and paste as we discussed is the =
way
> to go until VBS gets it's act together.
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> Regards -
>
> - Andrew- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

My investments with Vanguard are for my company's 401(k). I have six
Vanguard Funds and two funds for my company's stock. Each fund has
six sources for contributions/reinvestment. Vanguard's sources on the
web do not map into Quicken's core sources for funds (for example, I
am contribution/reivestment to my 401(k) as Roth Contributions and it
maps to Cash Source of Unknown Source).

The dividends on my company's stock do not come in a reinvested
dividends. Depending on the fund, they will send the fractional
shares from three significant digits up to five significant digits
after the decimal place, yet their website shows all transactions
(rounded) to three digits after the decimal places as do their paper
statements.

So, my process is to download the transactions, accept all and then
correct everything (which these days is pretty much limited to the
fractional shares where I make them match the web - I guess I should
thank my lucky stars that they use traditional rounding. Up to
Janaury of this year, was I downloading about 150 transactions per
month. Since I change my investment direction, I am talking about 150
transactions per quarter.

Oilcan

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