Vista and 2007

Posted by R. C. White on September 18, 2007, 9:16 am

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Hi, DJ.

> The genesis of the Vista problematic "unlock code" (that doesn't work)

> was my upgrading in response to the "No more support for 2004"

> announcement with 2007 CD campaign early this year. You bought at the

> web site and they sent the UC.

That explains why I never saw an Unlock Code: I never bought Vista for
download. Thanks for the explanation.

RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Currently running Vista Ultimate x64)

> Got a link to a downloadable version of 2007 via live chat with

> Quickem support this morning, which I haven't tried as I'm at work. My

> goal now is to install it on Vista Ultimate (falling to knees in

> prayer).

> The genesis of the Vista problematic "unlock code" (that doesn't work)

> was my upgrading in response to the "No more support for 2004"

> announcement with 2007 CD campaign early this year. You bought at the

> web site and they sent the UC.

> I am intrigued with R.C. White's install technique which I may try...

> -=-=-=-=-=-=-

> "I've been using Quicken since long before the Program Files folder

> was

> invented, and I still install it into its own E:QuickenW folder (from

> back

> when Intuit added the "W" to distinguish the Windows version of

> Quicken from

> the MS-DOS version). By installing the application into this single

> folder,

> accessible from both WinXP and Vista, I was able to run it from either

> OS

> and access the same data file from either. Both used the same

> application

> files and data fileset."

> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

> A bit off-topic, but perhaps critical for my situation, seeing as

> Intuit's "Clean-up" utility rendered my 2007 install unuseable, not to

> mention uninstallable(!). How does one manually uninstall an app

> under XP? I thought maybe deleting the Quicken directory, restarting

> and then running a good registry utility might do it...? Maybe I'll

> try installing the new DL over it. My CD install just bombed with an

> error I don't recall. Didn't like something. (R.C. just hates it when

> I do that!) OK R.C. if I can recreate it I'll reveal the error

> message! ;-)

> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 09:23:00 -0600, "Bob Wang"

>>DJ:

>>I know this is not of any help to you now.

>>But, I went through a similar situations a few weeks ago with installing

>>Q2007 H&B on Vista Ultimate 32-bit.

>>Fortunately for me, this was on a brand new machine, so I just reverted

>>back

>>to a clean image after I could not remove the failed installation.

>>I waited till I got Q2008 H&B, that install went without a hitch.

>>Bob

>>>>>

>>I've been dual booting between XP and Vista for months and recently

>>decided to make the transfer to Vista as my default OS, so I'm moving

>>all mission critical apps to the Vista install.

>>I'll make this as short as I can. Can one install 2007 on Vista

>>(Ultimate in my case)...? During install my "Next" button remains

>>grayed out after entering the Unlock code. Apparently this is a well

>>known problem with a couple different approaches to work arounds at

>>the Intuit web site, neither of which appear to work.

>>Actually, the "clean-up utility method", not only makes no difference

>>in the Vista install realm, but rendered my XP install un useable as

>>it deleted the 'qw.exe' from that install (?!)I can't even do a

>>"repair" install there, or remove the program from XP via Control

>>Panel (errors out)to prep for a clean install of the program. Nice,

>>eh? Thanks Intuit. Can someone please help!

Posted by DJ Bjorklund on September 18, 2007, 5:17 pm

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wrote:

>Hi, DJ.

>> The genesis of the Vista problematic "unlock code" (that doesn't work)

>> was my upgrading in response to the "No more support for 2004"

>> announcement with 2007 CD campaign early this year. You bought at the

>> web site and they sent the UC.

>That explains why I never saw an Unlock Code: I never bought Vista for

>download. Thanks for the explanation.

>RC

Nope, I need to clarify. Actually the 2007 CD came in the mail back
in January along with the warning about it's support going away. So,
I bit, paid on line and got the unlock code via e-mail! ;-)

Unrelenting in their marketing efforts, and a bit ironically given my
recent difficulties, I got the 2008 CD yesterday. I did not bite.

Finally, I did chose a generic non-"Program Files" directory for my
install under Vista, "D:Quicken" by name. Things are fine under
Vista, but unlike you I cannot seem to access that install under XP. I
get the app window but an accompanying "There seems to be a problem
with your installation and Quicken must close" message

Posted by R. C. White on September 19, 2007, 9:25 am

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Hi, DJ.

> Nope, I need to clarify. Actually the 2007 CD came in the mail back

> in January along with the warning about it's support going away. So,

> I bit, paid on line and got the unlock code via e-mail! ;-)

Aha! That clarifies the unlock code issue.

> Finally, I did chose a generic non-"Program Files" directory for my

> install under Vista, "D:Quicken" by name. Things are fine under

> Vista, but unlike you I cannot seem to access that install under XP. I

> get the app window but an accompanying "There seems to be a problem

> with your installation and Quicken must close" message

Did you go through the entire Install rigmarole twice? Once in WinXP and
again in Vista?

It's not enough to have qw.exe and all the hundred or more application files
in D:Quicken. We have to run the installation program while in WinXP so
that it can make the proper entries in the WinXP Registry. Then we have to
reboot into Vista and do it all again so that the proper entries will be in
the Vista Registry. (Even if we are dual-booting two installations of WinXP
side by side, one cannot see the other's Registry.)

Once we've done that, we can boot into WinXP and click on our QDATA.QDF
file, which should start D:Quickenqw.exe with the QDATA fileset loaded.
If we have entries to make in Quicken, we can do them now. Then we Exit
Quicken, letting it update its internal pointers in its housekeeping files
in D:Quicken, then reboot the computer into Vista. Again, we click on
QDATA.QDF, which should start D:Quickenqw.exe again with the just-updated
QDATA fileset, showing the entries that we just made while in WinXP. And
now we can make more entries or see reports that include today's entries.
Finally, exit Quicken again so that the internal housekeeping can be done.

Now, we should be able to use the Quicken icon that Quicken Setup put on
each desktop (WinXP and Vista) to start Quicken with our default data
fileset loaded, fully updated with entries that were made from our last
session, no matter whether that session was in WinXP or Vista.

Backups? My practice has been to leave my data files in my equivalent of
your D:Quicken. This may appall some users - having data files in the
program folder - but I've been doing it this way since Win9x days.
Quicken's automatic backups go to the automatically-created
D:QuickenBACKUP. And I backup at least once each session to a different
folder AND often to a folder on a separate hard drive AND occasionally to a
CD or USB thumb drive stored separately from my computer. I'll leave the
rest of the backup discussion for another time, but my point here is that
all the backups go to the same place, no matter which operating system I'm
running at the moment.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Currently running Vista Ultimate x64)

> wrote:

>>Hi, DJ.

>>> The genesis of the Vista problematic "unlock code" (that doesn't work)

>>> was my upgrading in response to the "No more support for 2004"

>>> announcement with 2007 CD campaign early this year. You bought at the

>>> web site and they sent the UC.

>>That explains why I never saw an Unlock Code: I never bought Vista for

>>download. Thanks for the explanation.

>>RC

> Nope, I need to clarify. Actually the 2007 CD came in the mail back

> in January along with the warning about it's support going away. So,

> I bit, paid on line and got the unlock code via e-mail! ;-)

> Unrelenting in their marketing efforts, and a bit ironically given my

> recent difficulties, I got the 2008 CD yesterday. I did not bite.

> Finally, I did chose a generic non-"Program Files" directory for my

> install under Vista, "D:Quicken" by name. Things are fine under

> Vista, but unlike you I cannot seem to access that install under XP. I

> get the app window but an accompanying "There seems to be a problem

> with your installation and Quicken must close" message

Posted by SunCityCal on September 25, 2007, 11:34 am

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I have no problem running Q.2007 Rev.5 on Vista. And on another, XP,
machine. Have not tried any dual boot stuff.
: I've been dual booting between XP and Vista for months and recently
: decided to make the transfer to Vista as my default OS, so I'm moving
: all mission critical apps to the Vista install.
:
: I'll make this as short as I can. Can one install 2007 on Vista
: (Ultimate in my case)...? During install my "Next" button remains
: grayed out after entering the Unlock code. Apparently this is a well
: known problem with a couple different approaches to work arounds at
: the Intuit web site, neither of which appear to work.
:
: Actually, the "clean-up utility method", not only makes no difference
: in the Vista install realm, but rendered my XP install un useable as
: it deleted the 'qw.exe' from that install (?!)I can't even do a
: "repair" install there, or remove the program from XP via Control
: Panel (errors out)to prep for a clean install of the program. Nice,
: eh? Thanks Intuit. Can someone please help!