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Warning to users of recurring transactions... again vjg 01-30-2007
Posted by vjg on January 30, 2007, 2:25 am
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I reported my complaint about Chase changing due dates in the post at
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.software.financial.quicken/msg/
9e0bae52a3ddeb78 last March. Now, the little weasels are at it again.
Not on my account, but on my mother-in-law's account. I'm handling
this account for her to get it paid off. Chase has had a due date of
the 27th for the last 2 years. I have on-line recurring transactions
to pay them on the 25th. They changed the due date to the 22nd. After
several years of steady payments well in excess of any minimums, you
become complacent about reading statements. You know it's always paid
and on time.

The stupid thing? At the bottom of the statement (that I didn't read)
it says "...your date has changed and is earlier than in previous
months. To select a payment due date that works best for you, please
call customer service."

Now, don't you think that if the payment had been made without
incident for multiple years, that the due date in question might be
one that "works best for" me/her?

I'm telling you, I wouldn't be a bit surprised to learn that they've
analyzed the payment methods and cycles and used that information to
change due dates on those accounts that are most likely to show up
"late" if they bump the due dates forward a few days.

Oh, and when this happened last march they absolutely refused to
remove the late charge. I'll have my MIL call them tomorrow, but I bet
they refuse again. I absolutely loathe these guys and can't wait to be
done with them.

- vjg


Posted by vjg on January 30, 2007, 2:37 am
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> I reported my complaint about Chase changing due dates in the post
athttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.software.financial.quicken/msg/
> 9e0bae52a3ddeb78 last March. Now, the little weasels are at it again.
> Not on my account, but on my mother-in-law's account. I'm handling
> this account for her to get it paid off. Chase has had a due date of
> the 27th for the last 2 years. I have on-line recurring transactions
> to pay them on the 25th. They changed the due date to the 22nd. After
> several years of steady payments well in excess of any minimums, you
> become complacent about reading statements. You know it's always paid
> and on time.
>
> The stupid thing? At the bottom of the statement (that I didn't read)
> it says "...your date has changed and is earlier than in previous
> months. To select a payment due date that works best for you, please
> call customer service."
>
> Now, don't you think that if the payment had been made without
> incident for multiple years, that the due date in question might be
> one that "works best for" me/her?
>
> I'm telling you, I wouldn't be a bit surprised to learn that they've
> analyzed the payment methods and cycles and used that information to
> change due dates on those accounts that are most likely to show up
> "late" if they bump the due dates forward a few days.
>
> Oh, and when this happened last march they absolutely refused to
> remove the late charge. I'll have my MIL call them tomorrow, but I bet
> they refuse again. I absolutely loathe these guys and can't wait to be
> done with them.
>
> - vjg

Oops, correction. I caught this *before* I got caught in the late
payment trap last time. Hopefully I can get this resolved this time
around now that a payment has bee made "late". However, when I called
and when I wrote them about the last episode, they were completely
unapologetic.

- vjg


Posted by Han on January 30, 2007, 6:37 am
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>
>
>> I reported my complaint about Chase changing due dates in the post
>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.software.financial.quicken/m
>> sg/ 9e0bae52a3ddeb78 last March. Now, the little weasels are at it
>> again. Not on my account, but on my mother-in-law's account. I'm
>> handling this account for her to get it paid off. Chase has had a due
>> date of the 27th for the last 2 years. I have on-line recurring
>> transactions to pay them on the 25th. They changed the due date to
>> the 22nd. After several years of steady payments well in excess of
>> any minimums, you become complacent about reading statements. You
>> know it's always paid and on time.
>>
>> The stupid thing? At the bottom of the statement (that I didn't read)
>> it says "...your date has changed and is earlier than in previous
>> months. To select a payment due date that works best for you, please
>> call customer service."
>>
>> Now, don't you think that if the payment had been made without
>> incident for multiple years, that the due date in question might be
>> one that "works best for" me/her?
>>
>> I'm telling you, I wouldn't be a bit surprised to learn that they've
>> analyzed the payment methods and cycles and used that information to
>> change due dates on those accounts that are most likely to show up
>> "late" if they bump the due dates forward a few days.
>>
>> Oh, and when this happened last march they absolutely refused to
>> remove the late charge. I'll have my MIL call them tomorrow, but I
>> bet they refuse again. I absolutely loathe these guys and can't wait
>> to be done with them.
>>
>> - vjg
>
> Oops, correction. I caught this *before* I got caught in the late
> payment trap last time. Hopefully I can get this resolved this time
> around now that a payment has bee made "late". However, when I called
> and when I wrote them about the last episode, they were completely
> unapologetic.
>
> - vjg
>
Having been caught in similar and dissimilar traps, I have authorized
automatic withdrawals for credit cards, utilities etc.

And don't you know, Discover used to withdraw on the due date (just about
the end of the billing cycle) but I got an email/statement a whole bunch
of months ago that the due date had been changed to 10 days earlier. Now
I just have to keep making sure there is enough in the checking account.

--
Best regards
Han
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Posted by Jim Jensen on January 30, 2007, 8:14 am
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>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>> I reported my complaint about Chase changing due dates in the post
>>> =
athttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.software.financial.quicken/m
>>> sg/ 9e0bae52a3ddeb78 last March. Now, the little weasels are at it
>>> again. Not on my account, but on my mother-in-law's account. I'm
>>> handling this account for her to get it paid off. Chase has had a
>>> due date of the 27th for the last 2 years. I have on-line recurring
>>> transactions to pay them on the 25th. They changed the due date to
>>> the 22nd. After several years of steady payments well in excess of
>>> any minimums, you become complacent about reading statements. You
>>> know it's always paid and on time.
>>>=20
>>> The stupid thing? At the bottom of the statement (that I didn't
>>> read) it says "...your date has changed and is earlier than in
>>> previous months. To select a payment due date that works best for
>>> you, please call customer service."
>>>=20
>>> Now, don't you think that if the payment had been made without
>>> incident for multiple years, that the due date in question might be
>>> one that "works best for" me/her?
>>>=20
>>> I'm telling you, I wouldn't be a bit surprised to learn that they've
>>> analyzed the payment methods and cycles and used that information to
>>> change due dates on those accounts that are most likely to show up
>>> "late" if they bump the due dates forward a few days.
>>>=20
>>> Oh, and when this happened last march they absolutely refused to
>>> remove the late charge. I'll have my MIL call them tomorrow, but I
>>> bet they refuse again. I absolutely loathe these guys and can't wait
>>> to be done with them.
>>>=20
>>> - vjg
>>=20
>> Oops, correction. I caught this *before* I got caught in the late
>> payment trap last time. Hopefully I can get this resolved this time
>> around now that a payment has bee made "late". However, when I called
>> and when I wrote them about the last episode, they were completely
>> unapologetic.
>>=20
>> - vjg
>>=20
> Having been caught in similar and dissimilar traps, I have authorized
> automatic withdrawals for credit cards, utilities etc.
>=20
> And don't you know, Discover used to withdraw on the due date (just
> about the end of the billing cycle) but I got an email/statement a
> whole bunch of months ago that the due date had been changed to 10
> days earlier. Now I just have to keep making sure there is enough in
> the checking account.=20

Chase, and maybe others as well, has a preferences setting to email you =
when payment has not been received, and only xx days remains to the due =
date. Should catch changes in due dates and let you know in time.

Posted by Han on January 30, 2007, 8:40 pm
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> Chase, and maybe others as well, has a preferences setting to email
> you when payment has not been received, and only xx days remains to
> the due date. Should catch changes in due dates and let you know in
> time.
>
It should, but if you're out of email reach for a day or two, things happen
- not always good things. For me, the automagic way is better, but that's
only 1 man's opinion.

YMMV!
--
Best regards
Han
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