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What file formats for Q2007? Mr. 01-24-2007
Posted by Stewart Berman on February 16, 2007, 2:19 am
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>But you *can* import qif files into every account type in every
>version of Quicken through Q2006 ... and I believe Q2007 as
>well.

You forgot to include "as of today". Since Intuit has said that
Quicken does not allow imports of QIF files into certain types of
accounts they can -- at any time and without notice -- release an
"update" that disables the import even if the account is specified in
the QIF file.

Sometimes back doors are really trapdoors. Now if one was really
paranoid one would think that a back door was left in deliberately to
entice people that would not upgrade without it. Wait a year or two
and then close the back door sending folks screaming to their FI's to
pay the juice necessary to enable downloading.

The trick is to keep the charges to the FI's just below the point at
which they will fund an alternative open source interface.


>Charlie K wrote:
>> You can't import .qfx files into checking, savings, 401K,
>> and investment files into Quicken 2005, so I doubt you
>> can in any available upgrade to 2004
>
>I'm guessing you meant to say you can't import ".qif" files into
>checking, savings, 401k, etc.
>
>I know that's what Intuit says and what Quicken Help says ...
>
>But you *can* import qif files into every account type in every
>version of Quicken through Q2006 ... and I believe Q2007 as
>well.


Posted by John Pollard on February 16, 2007, 10:29 am
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 Stewart Berman wrote:
>> But you *can* import qif files into every account type
>> in every version of Quicken through Q2006 ... and I
>> believe Q2007 as well.

> You forgot to include "as of today". Since Intuit has
> said that Quicken does not allow imports of QIF files
> into certain types of accounts they can -- at any time
> and without notice -- release an "update" that disables
> the import even if the account is specified in the QIF
> file.

I think my statement more accurately descibes the situation, as
it doesn't include any paranoid speculation. Many things are
possible, but I work with what's true here and now.

And even if Intuit created a new release for your Quicken
version, you would not have to accept it. You can run any
release of any version you choose.

[FYI: it was Intuit that posted the fact that importing to
checking, savings, investment accounts was still possible in
versions later than Q2004.]

--
John Pollard
First initial underscore Last name at mchsi dot com
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430 No such article
Stewart Berman wrote:
>> But you *can* import qif files into every account type
>> in every version of Quicken through Q2006 ... and I
>> believe Q2007 as well.

> You forgot to include "as of today". Since Intuit has
> said that Quicken does not allow imports of QIF files
> into certain types of accounts they can -- at any time
> and without notice -- release an "update" that disables
> the import even if the account is specified in the QIF
> file.

I think my statement more accurately descibes the situation, as
it doesn't include any paranoid speculation. Many things are
possible, but I work with what's true here and now.

And even if Intuit created a new release for your Quicken
version, you would not have to accept it. You can run any
release of any version you choose.

[FYI: it was Intuit that posted the fact that importing to
checking, savings, investment accounts was still possible in
versions later than Q2004.]

--
John Pollard
First initial underscore Last name at mchsi dot com
Please reply to newsgroup



Posted by Stewart Berman on February 17, 2007, 8:29 pm
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>And even if Intuit created a new release for your Quicken
>version, you would not have to accept it. You can run any
>release of any version you choose.

Then you lose the online imports for your other accounts.

>[FYI: it was Intuit that posted the fact that importing to
>checking, savings, investment accounts was still possible in
>versions later than Q2004.]

But they didn't say they would continue to support it. The statement
is exactly what I was talking about. Quicken officially does not
allow imports of QIF files into financial accounts. They publicly say
it is a bad way to do things. They acknowledge that it is still
possible so if you really need it you will still upgrade but they say
nothing about the future. Again, anytime they want to and without
notice they can shut the door.


>Stewart Berman wrote:
>>> But you *can* import qif files into every account type
>>> in every version of Quicken through Q2006 ... and I
>>> believe Q2007 as well.
>
>> You forgot to include "as of today". Since Intuit has
>> said that Quicken does not allow imports of QIF files
>> into certain types of accounts they can -- at any time
>> and without notice -- release an "update" that disables
>> the import even if the account is specified in the QIF
>> file.
>
>I think my statement more accurately descibes the situation, as
>it doesn't include any paranoid speculation. Many things are
430 No such article
>And even if Intuit created a new release for your Quicken
>version, you would not have to accept it. You can run any
>release of any version you choose.

Then you lose the online imports for your other accounts.

>[FYI: it was Intuit that posted the fact that importing to
>checking, savings, investment accounts was still possible in
>versions later than Q2004.]

But they didn't say they would continue to support it. The statement
is exactly what I was talking about. Quicken officially does not
allow imports of QIF files into financial accounts. They publicly say
it is a bad way to do things. They acknowledge that it is still
possible so if you really need it you will still upgrade but they say
nothing about the future. Again, anytime they want to and without
notice they can shut the door.


>Stewart Berman wrote:
>>> But you *can* import qif files into every account type
>>> in every version of Quicken through Q2006 ... and I
>>> believe Q2007 as well.
>
>> You forgot to include "as of today". Since Intuit has
>> said that Quicken does not allow imports of QIF files
>> into certain types of accounts they can -- at any time
>> and without notice -- release an "update" that disables
>> the import even if the account is specified in the QIF
>> file.
>
>I think my statement more accurately descibes the situation, as
>it doesn't include any paranoid speculation. Many things are
>possible, but I work with what's true here and now.
>
>And even if Intuit created a new release for your Quicken
>version, you would not have to accept it. You can run any
>release of any version you choose.
>
>[FYI: it was Intuit that posted the fact that importing to
>checking, savings, investment accounts was still possible in
>versions later than Q2004.]


Posted by John Pollard on February 17, 2007, 9:03 pm
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Stewart Berman wrote:
>> And even if Intuit created a new release for your Quicken
>> version, you would not have to accept it. You can run
>> any release of any version you choose.

> Then you lose the online imports for your other accounts.

What the hell are you talking about? I said "release" not
"version". Do you understand the difference between a "release"
and a "version"? Rejecting "releases" to a version you already
own will not lose you any ability to download anything; actually
doing so can guarantee that such capabilties can not be removed.

But we were not talking about "Quicken downloads"; we were
talking about downloads that occurred outside of Quicken (qif
file downloads) ... which were then "imported" into Quicken.
There is absolutely no way that Intuit/Quicken can prevent you
from download qif files to your pc.

So: the issue must be limited to what Intuit can prevent you
from "importing" into Quicken.

If you buy a VERSION of Quicken that can import qif files, there
is no way for Intuit to *later* prevent that version of Quicken
from importing qif files ... except by getting you to apply new
RELEASES to that version.

>> [FYI: it was Intuit that posted the fact that importing
>> to checking, savings, investment accounts was still
>> possible in versions later than Q2004.]

> But they didn't say they would continue to support it.
> The statement is exactly what I was talking about.
> Quicken officially does not allow imports of QIF files
> into financial accounts. They publicly say it is a bad
> way to do things.

> They acknowledge that it is still
> possible so if you really need it you will still upgrade
> but they say nothing about the future.

So what? How many companies do you know that promise you what
ever you want for as long as you want it.

You have not demonstrated any way that Intuit can prevent your
existing version of Quicken from doing anything that does not
require internet access *via Quicken* ... if you do not accept
any (or some) additional "RELEASES" for it. And if you can't do
that, you have NO case.

> Again, anytime
> they want to and without notice they can shut the door.

The burden is on you to demonstrate how Intuit can do this. You
haven't even come close to doing so.
You are wrong!

--
John Pollard
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Posted by Stewart Berman on February 17, 2007, 10:42 pm
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>What the hell are you talking about? I said "release" not
>"version". Do you understand the difference between a "release"

Sorry, I misread it. However, you would not know if the release
turned off QIF file updating until after you accepted it. It could
also be set to turn it off three months after it is applied.

Quicken is at a point where it cannot expand it's FI paying base
without forcing the issue. It is obvious that online updating is not
worth the cost for many FI's. Quicken is using it's market share on
the desktop to try and force the FI's to buy their online interface.

If they keep the back door open they are admitting that there are no
technical reasons for cutting off easy QIF importing only market ting
reasons. When they need to squeeze a little harder they will close
the back door.


>Stewart Berman wrote:
>>> And even if Intuit created a new release for your Quicken
>>> version, you would not have to accept it. You can run
>>> any release of any version you choose.
>
>> Then you lose the online imports for your other accounts.
>
>What the hell are you talking about? I said "release" not
>"version". Do you understand the difference between a "release"
>and a "version"? Rejecting "releases" to a version you already
>own will not lose you any ability to download anything; actually
>doing so can guarantee that such capabilties can not be removed.
>
>But we were not talking about "Quicken downloads"; we were
>talking about downloads that occurred outside of Quicken (qif
>file downloads) ... which were then "imported" into Quicken.
>There is absolutely no way that Intuit/Quicken can prevent you
>from download qif files to your pc.
>
>So: the issue must be limited to what Intuit can prevent you
>from "importing" into Quicken.
>
>If you buy a VERSION of Quicken that can import qif files, there
>is no way for Intuit to *later* prevent that version of Quicken
>from importing qif files ... except by getting you to apply new
>RELEASES to that version.
>
>>> [FYI: it was Intuit that posted the fact that importing
>>> to checking, savings, investment accounts was still
>>> possible in versions later than Q2004.]
>
>> But they didn't say they would continue to support it.
>> The statement is exactly what I was talking about.
>> Quicken officially does not allow imports of QIF files
>> into financial accounts. They publicly say it is a bad
>> way to do things.
>
>> They acknowledge that it is still
>> possible so if you really need it you will still upgrade
>> but they say nothing about the future.
>
>So what? How many companies do you know that promise you what
>ever you want for as long as you want it.
>
>You have not demonstrated any way that Intuit can prevent your
>existing version of Quicken from doing anything that does not
>require internet access *via Quicken* ... if you do not accept
>any (or some) additional "RELEASES" for it. And if you can't do
>that, you have NO case.
>
>> Again, anytime
>> they want to and without notice they can shut the door.
>
>The burden is on you to demonstrate how Intuit can do this. You
>haven't even come close to doing so.
>You are wrong!


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