Why did Quicken 2009 replace my Quicken 2006?

Posted by Nomen Nescio on March 15, 2009, 11:10 am

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When I bought and installed a full version of Quicken Deluxe 2009, it
replaced my Quicken Deluxe 2006.
I had no choice to install it side by side with 2006 to compare.
My 2006 still had some shelf life left in it.

If I paid for a *full* version of Quicken, can the vendor (Intuit)
force the removal of an older version (during installation) that still
has some life?
e.g. If I paid full price for a new car, can a vendor (e.g. Ford)
force me to destroy my old car?

Is a pro-rated refund of unused shelf life appropriate in these
circumstances?

Posted by Naughtius on March 15, 2009, 12:20 pm

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> When I bought and installed a full version of Quicken Deluxe 2009, it

> replaced my Quicken Deluxe 2006.

First, You Proceed From a FALSE Assumption...

Indeed, Quicken `09 *did* "replace" Quicken `06... *ON Your Current
Computer's HardDrive*... That Is, the... ummmm... "STALE" `06 Code has
been Replaced/Updated with New & Improved `09 Code which Doubtless,
"Runs FASTER & Jumps HIGHER"... Your Assumption, i.e., that Quicken
'09 "replaced" [And Thereby Recinded/Lost/Denied Your continued use of
the Previous Version of] Quicken `06, that somehow, Installing `09
DISINTEGRATED the `06 Install CD... or CANCELLED The User License for
Same, is where That Assumption turned False... You STILL Have the `06
CD, and... [Don't Know WHY You would Want To] You Can, At Your
Leisure, INSTALL `06 on Another Computer... where it will Work Just
Fine... According to `06 Programming Code Standards... UNtil
"replaced" with Spiffier `09 Code...

> I had no choice to install it side by side with 2006 to compare.

Well, NOT on The SAME MACHINE/OS anyway...

> My 2006 still had some shelf life left in it.

Yeah? AND? IF you Want To Suffe... iiiiihh... ENJOY the Ever-
Obsolescing `06 Code, REpartion your Current [Single] HD, INSTALL a
Dual-Boot OS, and REinstall `06 there... OR Acquire another Computer
and INstall it there, thence to run... "compare"... the Software "side-
by-side"...

> If I paid for a *full* version of Quicken, can the vendor (Intuit)

> force the removal of an older version (during installation) that still

> has some life?

In a Word: "Of Course they can"...

> e.g. If I paid full price for a new car, can a vendor (e.g. Ford)

> force me to destroy my old car?

"Apples and Peanut Butter Gorillas"...

Intuit has NOT Required You to "destroy" `06... OR Your old car...
NOR have you, In Any Cognizable Way, been Denied Use of `06... OR Your
old car...

> Is a pro-rated refund of unused shelf life appropriate in these

> circumstances?

[SIGH] Do You Sit Down At The Dinner Table EVERY NIGHT Conjuring Up
these ABURDITIES?

DO This: RETURN the UNsed Portion of Quicken 2006 to Intuit for a
Refund of The UNspent Portion of The Purchase Price...

CHECK THAT... You were, NO DOUBT, Offered a Substantial Discount on
the Price of Quicken `09 *On Account Of* the Fact that You Own a
*Qualifying* Previous Version of Quicken... You have, in effect,
Gotten MORE THAN Your "UNspent Money" back...

Naughtius "The Check's In The Mail" Maximus

Posted by Naughtius on March 15, 2009, 2:17 pm

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> Naughtius wrote:

> >> When I bought and installed a full version of Quicken Deluxe 2009, it

> >> replaced my Quicken Deluxe 2006.

> > First, You Proceed From a FALSE Assumption...

> > Indeed, Quicken `09 *did* "replace" Quicken `06... *ON Your Current

> > Computer's HardDrive*... That Is, the... ummmm... "STALE" `06 Code has

> > been Replaced/Updated with New & Improved `09 Code which Doubtless,

> > "Runs FASTER & Jumps HIGHER"... Your Assumption, i.e., that Quicken

> > '09 "replaced" [And Thereby Recinded/Lost/Denied Your continued use of

> > the Previous Version of] Quicken `06, that somehow, Installing `09

> > DISINTEGRATED the `06 Install CD... or CANCELLED The User License for

> > Same, is where That Assumption turned False... You STILL Have the `06

> > CD, and... [Don't Know WHY You would Want To] You Can, At Your

> > Leisure, INSTALL `06 on Another Computer... where it will Work Just

> > Fine... According to `06 Programming Code Standards... UNtil

> > "replaced" with Spiffier `09 Code...

> >> I had no choice to install it side by side with 2006 to compare.

> > Well, NOT on The SAME MACHINE/OS anyway...

> >> My 2006 still had some shelf life left in it.

> > Yeah? AND? IF you Want To Suffe... iiiiihh... ENJOY the Ever-

> > Obsolescing `06 Code, REpartion your Current [Single] HD, INSTALL a

> > Dual-Boot OS, and REinstall `06 there... OR Acquire another Computer

> > and INstall it there, thence to run... "compare"... the Software "side-

> > by-side"...

> >> If I paid for a *full* version of Quicken, can the vendor (Intuit)

> >> force the removal of an older version (during installation) that still

> >> has some life?

> > In a Word: "Of Course they can"...

> >> e.g. If I paid full price for a new car, can a vendor (e.g. Ford)

> >> force me to destroy my old car?

> > "Apples and Peanut Butter Gorillas"...

> > Intuit has NOT Required You to "destroy" `06... OR Your old car...

> > NOR have you, In Any Cognizable Way, been Denied Use of `06... OR Your

> > old car...

> >> Is a pro-rated refund of unused shelf life appropriate in these

> >> circumstances?

> > [SIGH] Do You Sit Down At The Dinner Table EVERY NIGHT Conjuring Up

> > these ABURDITIES?

> > DO This: RETURN the UNsed Portion of Quicken 2006 to Intuit for a

> > Refund of The UNspent Portion of The Purchase Price...

> > CHECK THAT... You were, NO DOUBT, Offered a Substantial Discount on

> > the Price of Quicken `09 *On Account Of* the Fact that You Own a

> > *Qualifying* Previous Version of Quicken... You have, in effect,

> > Gotten MORE THAN Your "UNspent Money" back...

> > Naughtius "The Check's In The Mail" Maximus

> Is SomeThing SceWed UP with YOUr sHifT key?

> --

> Andrew DeFaria

No... What You're Seeing is My PATENTED DICKHEAD Detector DEtecting
Known DICKHEADS...

Naughtius "Works GOOD, Doesn'it?" Maximus

Posted by Nomen Nescio on March 16, 2009, 10:40 am

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>> I had no choice to install it side by side with 2006 to compare.

> Well, NOT on The SAME MACHINE/OS anyway...

Do you know what you are talking about?

As someone else posted:
If you want both versions on one computer, look here
https://quicken.custhelp.com/cgi-
bin/quicken.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=3037

> CHECK THAT... You were, NO DOUBT, Offered a Substantial Discount on

> the Price of Quicken `09 *On Account Of* the Fact that You Own a

> *Qualifying* Previous Version of Quicken

So what do you think is the full price of Quicken Deluxe 2009 vs. the
upgrade price for existing customers?

Posted by Naughtius on March 16, 2009, 11:35 am

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> c0a5-49a6-bd52-2610e4791...@w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com...

> >> I had no choice to install it side by side with 2006 to compare.

> > Well, NOT on The SAME MACHINE/OS anyway...

> Do you know what you are talking about?

While Setting Aside Your Responsibility to Assert a
CounterArgument... a *General* CounterArgument... To Some As-Yet-
UNstated Objection to Some *Part* of my Original RE:, I'll Say This IN
ANSWER TO the Above Foppish Retort:

*I've* been Using some form of Quicken [For my *Personal* Checking/
Credit/Financial needs] since The Days Of DOS... DOS... iiiiyyuhhhh...
DOS 6... Prolly 7 or 8 Incarnations Worth in that Time Span... AND
some form of QuickBooks Pro [For the *Accounting* needs of My
Practice] since... Roughly 1998... Prolly 5 or 6 Versions there...
Currently on "Pro 2009"...

So... *YES*... I can state With Some CONFIDENCE that *I* Know what
I'm Talking About... ON The Condition that Your VAGUE, NEBULOUS
Question, Ostensibly WRT "Quicken" is *STILL* a Question Concerning
Quicken 2006 et al, AND The Software Publisher's MANDATORY
Installation/Upgrade Policies & Procedures...

> As someone else posted:

> If you want both versions on one computer, look herehttps://quicken.custh=

elp.com/cgi-

> bin/quicken.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=3D3037

Mm Hmm... AND?

> > =A0 CHECK THAT... You were, NO DOUBT, Offered a Substantial Discount on

> > the Price of Quicken `09 *On Account Of* the Fact that You Own a

> > *Qualifying* Previous Version of Quicken

> So what do you think is the full price of Quicken Deluxe 2009 vs. the

> upgrade price for existing customers?

Well... I DON"T KNOW, What I Don't go to Intuit... OR PriceWatch...
OR amazon.com... and Check There, The Offers for Existing Users of
Quicken *X*...

THIS is so, becuz *MY* Current Version of Quicken is "Home and
Business 2008"... [NOT "Deluxe"]

AND... Curiously, Some Might Observe, my 2008 is Even Now, EVERY
TIME I Open it, NAGwaring me with a "Special Offer" to "Save 25% on
[Your Choice Of Version] Quicken 2009, _PLUS_ Get Quicken Willmaker
FREE"...

Well... Check That... CLICKing On the NAGware Offer Drops Me onto
the Upgrade Offer Page where *MY* Only Choices are "Quicken Home &
Business 2009" for $74.99 OR "Quicken Rental Property Manager 2009"
for $112.49...

Meh...

So... I really Can't Know what "...is the full price of Quicken
Deluxe 2009 vs. the upgrade price for existing customers?"

BUT, When It Comes To Intuit Upgrade/Installation Policies &
Procedures...

Naughtius "ASK Me - I KNOW..." Maximus