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YTD return% in investment portfolio view nonsense jo 01-16-2008
Posted by jo on January 16, 2008, 10:47 pm
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 Using Q H&B 2006. The year-to-date return % in my Portfolio view are
total nonsense. With mutual funds, they are the same as the one year
return%. With everything else they are just ridiculous. A 45% return
in a stock that has gone down? The same negative return for INTUIT
that it's shown for months, when this is one of the few that actually
has a small positive gain YTD. Other entries are equally off the
mark. Is this only my experience? It's really driving me crazy.
Help!

jo

Posted by Leo on January 18, 2008, 5:01 pm
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> Using Q H&B 2006. The year-to-date return % in my Portfolio view are
> total nonsense. With mutual funds, they are the same as the one year
> return%. With everything else they are just ridiculous. A 45% return
> in a stock that has gone down? The same negative return for INTUIT
> that it's shown for months, when this is one of the few that actually
> has a small positive gain YTD. Other entries are equally off the
> mark. Is this only my experience? It's really driving me crazy.
> Help!
>
> jo

Jo - If you find any sort of solution please post it. My investment
calculations are utter rubbish. My solution has been to export my
Fidelity portfolio to Excel and insert my own calculations. There
does not seem to be a solution within Quicken. I have just spent an
hour trying to make Microsoft Money work with Vista. That does not
give me a great deal of faith that Money is better.

Posted by jo on January 20, 2008, 4:14 pm
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>
> > Using Q H&B 2006. =A0The year-to-date return % in my Portfolio view are
> > total nonsense. =A0With mutual funds, they are the same as the one year
> > return%. =A0With everything else they are just ridiculous. =A0A 45% retu=
rn
> > in a stock that has gone down? =A0The same negative return for INTUIT
> > that it's shown for months, when this is one of the few that actually
> > has a small positive gain YTD. =A0 Other entries are equally off the
> > mark. =A0Is this only my experience? =A0It's really driving me crazy.
> > Help!
>
> > jo
>
> Jo - If you find any sort of solution please post it. =A0My investment
> calculations are utter rubbish. =A0My solution has been to export my
> Fidelity portfolio to Excel and insert my own calculations. =A0There
> does not seem to be a solution within Quicken. =A0I have just spent an
> hour trying to make Microsoft Money work with Vista. =A0That does not
> give me a great deal of faith that Money is better.

Leo,

I finally did find the cause, from a link someone posted here (sorry I
can't find it) to all the discussion on the Quicken forum on the
Intuit site. Everyone is complaining about problems with downloading
quotes and the YTD issue, but most are referencing version 2008.
Apparently the problem has been around for several versions. Quicken
does not calculate this percentage (or maybe any of them). It's
downloaded data (from ?). There is something wrong with either
Intuit's servers (downloading quotes works for some people some of the
time, but often needs repeated attempts and the success is often not
on the correct day, which annoys people keeping very close tabs on
performance). The YTD figure seems to have gotten fixed for a few
days last year, then unfixed, and then stuck at some value. Many of
mine match the 1 year perfomance %, but not all. Some are just
garbage. There are a couple of suggestions for solving the downloading
problem.. one involved with a rather complicated Excel solution and
importing the prices back to Quicken and a second referring to a
utility program which simplified things. Sorry I can't give you
chapter and verse, but it's all on the Intuit site. As for the
YTD %, I'm not sure if that is incorporated in these solutions or
not. I haven't tried running any reports to see if it is only in
error on the Portfolio view screen. Have you?

jo

Posted by Stubby on January 21, 2008, 9:10 am
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Quicken has had a persistent problem with IRR, YTD returns, etc. I did a
lot of reading about how this works and it comes down to Intuit using a
common IRR calculation for all of their return calculations. This IRR
requires prices for the security on the first day of the year and on the
last day of the year even though you are asking only about say, a one-month
period or a few months of the current year. So, it may not have the numbers
it needs and has to do the best it can with your data file. This means the
calculation will be whacky unless you ask about a 1 year period for which
you have complete data.


>
> > Using Q H&B 2006. The year-to-date return % in my Portfolio view are
> > total nonsense. With mutual funds, they are the same as the one year
> > return%. With everything else they are just ridiculous. A 45% return
> > in a stock that has gone down? The same negative return for INTUIT
> > that it's shown for months, when this is one of the few that actually
> > has a small positive gain YTD. Other entries are equally off the
> > mark. Is this only my experience? It's really driving me crazy.
> > Help!
>
> > jo
>
> Jo - If you find any sort of solution please post it. My investment
> calculations are utter rubbish. My solution has been to export my
> Fidelity portfolio to Excel and insert my own calculations. There
> does not seem to be a solution within Quicken. I have just spent an
> hour trying to make Microsoft Money work with Vista. That does not
> give me a great deal of faith that Money is better.

Leo,

I finally did find the cause, from a link someone posted here (sorry I
can't find it) to all the discussion on the Quicken forum on the
Intuit site. Everyone is complaining about problems with downloading
quotes and the YTD issue, but most are referencing version 2008.
Apparently the problem has been around for several versions. Quicken
does not calculate this percentage (or maybe any of them). It's
downloaded data (from ?). There is something wrong with either
Intuit's servers (downloading quotes works for some people some of the
time, but often needs repeated attempts and the success is often not
on the correct day, which annoys people keeping very close tabs on
performance). The YTD figure seems to have gotten fixed for a few
days last year, then unfixed, and then stuck at some value. Many of
mine match the 1 year perfomance %, but not all. Some are just
garbage. There are a couple of suggestions for solving the downloading
problem.. one involved with a rather complicated Excel solution and
importing the prices back to Quicken and a second referring to a
utility program which simplified things. Sorry I can't give you
chapter and verse, but it's all on the Intuit site. As for the
YTD %, I'm not sure if that is incorporated in these solutions or
not. I haven't tried running any reports to see if it is only in
error on the Portfolio view screen. Have you?

jo



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