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copy/paste split transaction John Keith 12-22-2007
Posted by John Pollard on December 24, 2007, 4:57 pm
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Stewart Berman wrote:
> I think you will find that copying and pasting transactions
> with
> splits between Quicken 2008 files only works well if the files
> are
> copies of each other.
>
> If you make a copy of your Quicken file, create a transaction
> with
> splits in one and copy and paste it into the other it will
> work.
>
> I suspect that is because Quicken does not actually copy the
> literal
> strings but a reference (key) to them. For example, if the
> key to the
> category "Gifts" is 3 in the first file and 3 is the key to
> "Gas" in
> the second file the category will show up as "Gas" in the
> second file.
>
> Try creating a brand new Quicken file with one checking
> account and
> pasting a transaction with splits from a checking account in
> your
> regular file into the new one. Some categories will be
> changed and
> others will be blank. The blank ones are were the keys don't
> exist in
> the new file.

Well, you're at least partially right. I do now see that Q2008
will not get the categories correct in a situation similar to
the one you describe above.

I do find it difficult to believe that Intuit would choose to do
it as you have postulated, but I also don't think they have a
great deal of interest in the overall process, so they're
probably not rushing to make it work.

> What is interesting is that Quicken does not even alert
> you to the missing keys.

> You can't export the transactions you want ot copy as a QIF
> file
> because Quicken won't let you import them into a checking
> account.

You definitely can import QIF files into checking accounts in
newer versions of Quicken ... with a little extra work. But for
the op, no extra work is involved since he's using Q2002.

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Posted by John Keith on December 24, 2007, 6:31 pm
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wrote:

>You definitely can import QIF files into checking accounts in
>newer versions of Quicken ... with a little extra work.

For future reference (when I do have to upgrade) what are the extra
steps to import a QIF into a checking account.


John Keith
kd0gd@juno.com

Posted by John Pollard on December 24, 2007, 9:16 pm
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John Keith wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 "John Pollard" wrote:
>
>> You definitely can import QIF files into checking accounts in
>> newer versions of Quicken ... with a little extra work.

> For future reference (when I do have to upgrade) what are the
> extra
> steps to import a QIF into a checking account.

http://tinyurl.com/3438ay

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Posted by Stewart Berman on December 27, 2007, 3:42 am
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Intuit doesn't use the clipboard for copy and paste. It stores the
information internally. If it used the clipboard it would use the
strings instead of the keys.

I understand Intuit's interest in making it hard to move data out of
Quicken into another financial package. I don't understand why they
make it so hard to move data between Quicken files.

Most of the problem features that Intuit introduces with each new
version of Quicken are probably due to the fact that their designers
and developers don't use it -- at least not the business side.

I usually stay two years behind. This year, like an idiot, I upgraded
from Quicken 2005 H&B to Quicken 2008 H&B instead of 2006. Man am I
paying for it. I get duplicate entries from transfers in splits. One
Step update is flaky.

Reports that worked for the last ten years don't work anymore. I have
to do a year-end close in a week and Quicken's technical support's
response is to redo ten years worth of transactions.



Posted by John Pollard on December 27, 2007, 6:59 pm
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Stewart Berman wrote:
> Intuit doesn't use the clipboard for copy and paste. It
> stores the
> information internally. If it used the clipboard it would use
> the
> strings instead of the keys.

It would be courteous if you quoted what you were replying to
... then we'd know who and what you were addressing.

If it was me you were talking to, I already knew that Quicken
wasn't using the Windows clipboard.

That isn't the explanation for why Quicken doesn't have its own
"clipboard" make correct copies of all data that it attempts to
copy. It copies the text literally from other fields; I see no
technical reason why Quicken can't have a "clipboard" that
copies all the text it needs.

As I said earlier, I don't think Intuit places a lot of
importance on this feature (copying a single transaction from
one file to another); so I think they're not willing to spend a
lot of money on it. [I can't think of a compelling reason to
use the feature to copy one transaction, and paying for the
ability to do so.]

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