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e-mail quicken data file mmurrell 05-26-2006
Posted by Han on May 27, 2006, 7:50 am
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>
> Does password protection via quicken surive email transfer?
>
> If I have a file password protected on my Quicken and email all the
> necessary files to someone else, will the file open without a
> password?
>
> Just curious.

This will probably work, if the recipient has the password. However, it
still isn't advisable, IMHO. Emailing involves transfer from computer
one to a mail server, then transfer over who knows how many intermediary
servers to the recipient's ISP's mail server and then finally to the
recipient. I believe that ISP's are required to keep copies for some
time (but I'm not sure about that). Even if a copy doesn't get stored
for the Feds to look at, it is somewhere along the line that there is a
possibility of diverting a copy.

Then to post about this using a real email address is just plain dumb
(IMHO).

Just about everyone nowadays cacn set up somewhere a password protected
FTP site. I don't know the details of how to do this for anyone, since I
can use my work site to do this, and thus have never had the need to find
out.

An alternatice is to burn the files to CD and use physical transport to
transfer the files (e.g. US mail).

Just my 2 pennies (devalued).


>>> A caution: Since both you and the recipient seem to be new at all
>>> this, you need to make sure that the recipient knows how to get back
>>> to his own working file once he's done with yours.
>>>
>>
>> Sorry. Upon closer inspection I see that the files you emailed to
>> your friend ARE his working files.
>> (I assumed you wanted him to look at something in YOUR files.)
>>
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

>
> Does password protection via quicken surive email transfer?
>
> If I have a file password protected on my Quicken and email all the
> necessary files to someone else, will the file open without a
> password?
>
> Just curious.

This will probably work, if the recipient has the password. However, it
still isn't advisable, IMHO. Emailing involves transfer from computer
one to a mail server, then transfer over who knows how many intermediary
servers to the recipient's ISP's mail server and then finally to the
recipient. I believe that ISP's are required to keep copies for some
time (but I'm not sure about that). Even if a copy doesn't get stored
for the Feds to look at, it is somewhere along the line that there is a
possibility of diverting a copy.

Then to post about this using a real email address is just plain dumb
(IMHO).

Just about everyone nowadays cacn set up somewhere a password protected
FTP site. I don't know the details of how to do this for anyone, since I
can use my work site to do this, and thus have never had the need to find
out.

An alternatice is to burn the files to CD and use physical transport to
transfer the files (e.g. US mail).

Just my 2 pennies (devalued).


>>> A caution: Since both you and the recipient seem to be new at all
>>> this, you need to make sure that the recipient knows how to get back
>>> to his own working file once he's done with yours.
>>>
>>
>> Sorry. Upon closer inspection I see that the files you emailed to
>> your friend ARE his working files.
>> (I assumed you wanted him to look at something in YOUR files.)
>>
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Posted by mmurrell on May 27, 2006, 11:18 am
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>
>>
> Then to post about this using a real email address is just
> plain dumb
> (IMHO).
>
> Just about everyone nowadays cacn set up somewhere a
> password protected FTP site. >

Han,

I want to be safe. Thanks for helping. What is a FTP
site????



Posted by Han on May 27, 2006, 11:37 am
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>
>>
>>>
>> Then to post about this using a real email address is just
>> plain dumb
>> (IMHO).
>>
>> Just about everyone nowadays cacn set up somewhere a
>> password protected FTP site. >
>
> Han,
>
> I want to be safe. Thanks for helping. What is a FTP
> site????
>
FTP stands for File Transfer Protocol. While "regular" browsers and
email work with (variants of) just plain text (ASCII), files may contain
control characters etc. These take up more than one (email) byte, making
for instance a picture file or Word document ~30% bigger if sent by
email. FTP uses a system whereby that expansion doesn't occur. I'm not
a real geek, so I can't explain the details, but it could be analogous to
slang. Email isn't able to use the word "jerk" so it has to describe it,
and that takes more than 4 characters <grin>.

Maybe you should look at the google results of "ftp a file". The 3rd
result is <http://www.coreftp.com/>, where you may find more details. I
got WS_FTPLE, which was available through my university, for personal
non-profit use, but there are many other products at low cost or free.

--
Best regards
Han
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Posted by Andy Levy on May 28, 2006, 8:10 am
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On 5/27/2006 07:50, Han wrote:
>
>> Does password protection via quicken surive email transfer?
>>
>> If I have a file password protected on my Quicken and email all the
>> necessary files to someone else, will the file open without a
>> password?
>>
>> Just curious.
>
> This will probably work, if the recipient has the password. However, it
> still isn't advisable, IMHO. Emailing involves transfer from computer
> one to a mail server, then transfer over who knows how many intermediary
> servers to the recipient's ISP's mail server and then finally to the
> recipient. I believe that ISP's are required to keep copies for some
> time (but I'm not sure about that). Even if a copy doesn't get stored
> for the Feds to look at, it is somewhere along the line that there is a
> possibility of diverting a copy.

It's very easy for anyone to pick off an email as it goes through the
many servers en route to its destination.

> Then to post about this using a real email address is just plain dumb
> (IMHO).

Debatable. I use a "throwaway" address - GMail's SPAM filters are
really good, and it's not the address I use for my important
communications. Encouraging people to not use an email address that's
valid so they can be contacted off-newsgroup is about as dumb, IMHO.

> Just about everyone nowadays cacn set up somewhere a password protected
> FTP site. I don't know the details of how to do this for anyone, since I
> can use my work site to do this, and thus have never had the need to find
> out.

FTP sends passwords in plain text. It's anything but "safe"

Really, the best way to transmit files like this with such sensitive
data is to *encrypt* them using a *strong* encryption method. Tools
like PGP/GPG are great for this. TrueCrypt may also be able to do it
(haven't gotten around to checking it out yet).

Don't put anything in unencrypted email that you wouldn't put on the
back of a postcard sent by USPS. Your protection level is about the same.

> An alternatice is to burn the files to CD and use physical transport to
> transfer the files (e.g. US mail).


--
-andy

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        -Bob Tom
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Posted by Laura on May 28, 2006, 10:01 am
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Andy Levy wrote:
> On 5/27/2006 07:50, Han wrote:
>>
>>> Does password protection via quicken surive email transfer?
>>>
>>> If I have a file password protected on my Quicken and email all the
>>> necessary files to someone else, will the file open without a
>>> password?
>>>
>>> Just curious.
>> This will probably work, if the recipient has the password. However, it
>> still isn't advisable, IMHO. Emailing involves transfer from computer
>> one to a mail server, then transfer over who knows how many intermediary
>> servers to the recipient's ISP's mail server and then finally to the
>> recipient. I believe that ISP's are required to keep copies for some
>> time (but I'm not sure about that). Even if a copy doesn't get stored
>> for the Feds to look at, it is somewhere along the line that there is a
>> possibility of diverting a copy.
>
> It's very easy for anyone to pick off an email as it goes through the
> many servers en route to its destination.
>
>> Then to post about this using a real email address is just plain dumb
>> (IMHO).
>
> Debatable. I use a "throwaway" address - GMail's SPAM filters are
> really good, and it's not the address I use for my important
> communications. Encouraging people to not use an email address that's
> valid so they can be contacted off-newsgroup is about as dumb, IMHO.

Many people don't want people to contact them outside of the newsgroups so
not using a real e-mail address is acceptable to many people. If you *want*
people to contact you off-group then either include it in your sig or put it
in the reply-to field since this field is NOT available to the e-mail
harvest bots.

Some use a throw away e-mail address but if you are not going to ever check
that address then why use one and lead people to believe that they can
contact you outside of usenet.


>
>> Just about everyone nowadays cacn set up somewhere a password protected
>> FTP site. I don't know the details of how to do this for anyone, since I
>> can use my work site to do this, and thus have never had the need to find
>> out.
>
> FTP sends passwords in plain text. It's anything but "safe"
>
> Really, the best way to transmit files like this with such sensitive
> data is to *encrypt* them using a *strong* encryption method. Tools
> like PGP/GPG are great for this. TrueCrypt may also be able to do it
> (haven't gotten around to checking it out yet).
>
> Don't put anything in unencrypted email that you wouldn't put on the
> back of a postcard sent by USPS. Your protection level is about the same.
>
>> An alternatice is to burn the files to CD and use physical transport to
>> transfer the files (e.g. US mail).
>
>

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