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retirement planner question Jeff 05-08-2007
Posted by Jeff on May 8, 2007, 5:53 pm
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Quicken Deluxe 2006 Retirement planner does a reasonable job of showing
graphically how your accounts will grow over time till retirement based
on your settings. Is there a built in tool that will show how the
reality of your funds growth matches, under or over performs what Q had
predicted them to grow to - say 5 years ago?

I believe Q constantly updates the "starting amounts" so that it is
always calculating and predicting from a starting point of your present
account balances. If so there is no way of determining through Q itself
how closely its past predictions match what actually happened.

I hope I am clear.

Jeff





Posted by Bernie on May 9, 2007, 12:50 am
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On 5/8/2007 4:53 PM, Jeff wrote:
> Quicken Deluxe 2006 Retirement planner does a reasonable job of showing
> graphically how your accounts will grow over time till retirement based
> on your settings. Is there a built in tool that will show how the
> reality of your funds growth matches, under or over performs what Q had
> predicted them to grow to - say 5 years ago?
>
> I believe Q constantly updates the "starting amounts" so that it is
> always calculating and predicting from a starting point of your present
> account balances. If so there is no way of determining through Q itself
> how closely its past predictions match what actually happened.
>
> I hope I am clear.
>
> Jeff
>
You are clear and I have never found a function like the one you are
requesting. I'd like it too. I do have a printout from a projection
several years ago, but I never think to look at it. It wold be nice to
be able to save projections at various times and then compare them to
the current situation.

Bernie

Posted by John Pollard on May 9, 2007, 9:24 am
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Jeff wrote:
> Quicken Deluxe 2006 Retirement planner does a reasonable
> job of showing graphically how your accounts will grow
> over time till retirement based on your settings. Is
> there a built in tool that will show how the reality of
> your funds growth matches, under or over performs what Q
> had predicted them to grow to - say 5 years ago?
> I believe Q constantly updates the "starting amounts" so
> that it is always calculating and predicting from a
> starting point of your present account balances. If so
> there is no way of determining through Q itself how
> closely its past predictions match what actually
> happened.

Aren't those pretty much *your* "predictions", rather than
Quicken's?

Anyway, as a workaround, perhaps you could try this. Choose a
convenient interval that would permit you to make the
comparisons you desire - say 1 year. Plan to make "extra"
Quicken backups to a special "comparison" folder every
"interval". When you make the backup, open it, and remove the
Scheduled Transactions, and deactivate everything for
downloading, including quotes. You could even put a password on
all the existing transactions so they couldn't be modified.

Then when you wanted to do a comparison, you could open the
appropriate "special" Quicken backup and note the plan values.

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Posted by Jeff on May 9, 2007, 3:14 pm
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John Pollard wrote:
> Jeff wrote:
>> Quicken Deluxe 2006 Retirement planner does a reasonable
>> job of showing graphically how your accounts will grow
>> over time till retirement based on your settings. Is
>> there a built in tool that will show how the reality of
>> your funds growth matches, under or over performs what Q
>> had predicted them to grow to - say 5 years ago?
>> I believe Q constantly updates the "starting amounts" so
>> that it is always calculating and predicting from a
>> starting point of your present account balances. If so
>> there is no way of determining through Q itself how
>> closely its past predictions match what actually
>> happened.
>
> Aren't those pretty much *your* "predictions", rather than
> Quicken's?

Yes they are but using Quicken as a tool .....

> Anyway, as a workaround, perhaps you could try this. Choose a
> convenient interval that would permit you to make the
> comparisons you desire - say 1 year. Plan to make "extra"
> Quicken backups to a special "comparison" folder every
> "interval". When you make the backup, open it, and remove the
> Scheduled Transactions, and deactivate everything for
> downloading, including quotes. You could even put a password on
> all the existing transactions so they couldn't be modified.
>
> Then when you wanted to do a comparison, you could open the
> appropriate "special" Quicken backup and note the plan values.

That is the work around I figured out for myself. I just wondered -
since Quicken keeps the data on past transactions, etc - it would as a
really nice feature if it also kept track of the projections it had
calculated for me using "my" (or Quicken's default) assumptions.
Apparently it does not. Maybe sometime in the future. Should not be a
real hard feature to implement.

Thanks.

Jeff



Posted by John Pollard on May 9, 2007, 6:17 pm
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Jeff wrote:

> I just
> wondered - since Quicken keeps the data on past
> transactions, etc - it would as a really nice feature if
> it also kept track of the projections it had calculated
> for me using "my" (or Quicken's default) assumptions.
> Apparently it does not. Maybe sometime in the future.

> Should not be a real hard feature to implement.

All the Quicken Planners seem to me to be quite old. They also
look like they might have been purchased by Intuit ... meaning
code not very amenable to change, something not uncommon to such
an arrangement.

There have been quite a few suggestions about improvements to
the planners here; hopefully you, and others, with the ideas,
are posting the suggestions at Intuit's Quicken support site.
The Quicken Planners might be overdue for rewrite,

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