Home Page link  

401(k) early withdrawal penalty calculation

 

Taxes General Forum - Tax professionals meeting place and answers to queries. (Moderated)

 Post an article  get this group's latest topics as an RSS feed add this group's latest topics to your My MSN content add this group's latest topics to your My Yahoo content  add this group's latest topics to your Google content  YahooMyWeb Yahoo!  Google Google  Windows Live Favorites Windows Live  del.icio.us del.icio.us  digg digg  Add to Netscape Netscape
Subject Author Date
401(k) early withdrawal penalty calculation puneet.maini 11-10-2006
Posted by puneet.maini on November 10, 2006, 2:02 am
Please log in for more thread options
Do you know what is the exact amount on which 10% penalty is
imposed when you would withdraw money from your 401(k)
account? Is it on the absolute amount you have in your
401(k) account?

Some background info abt me:
I work here in US, but plan to move/settle back overseas
after like 3-4 years.

Basically I want to know:
Can I still make some money after the 10% penalty taking
into consideration the money contributed by employer?

Here's the calculation I have:

My Contribution (1 yr) : 3917.99
Employer Contribution (1 yr) : 1958.99

Total (1 yr) : 5876.99
Approx 5 % investment gain : 6170.84

Now, if I would like to withdraw this money what all
expenses would I have to be ready for

So, would the 10% penalty be on 6170.84?
On what amount would I have to pay taxes - my + employer
contribution?

Thanks a lot in advance!
- Puneet Maini

<< ======================================================= >>
<< The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, >>
<< nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties >>
<< that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. >>
<< >>
<< The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts >>
<< to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy >>
<< are at www.asktax.org. >>
<< Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. >>
<< ======================================================= >>

Posted by Herb Smith on November 10, 2006, 5:10 pm
Please log in for more thread options
puneet.maini@gmail.com wrote:

> Do you know what is the exact amount on which 10% penalty is
> imposed when you would withdraw money from your 401(k)
> account? Is it on the absolute amount you have in your
> 401(k) account?
>
> Some background info abt me:
> I work here in US, but plan to move/settle back overseas
> after like 3-4 years.
>
> Basically I want to know:
> Can I still make some money after the 10% penalty taking
> into consideration the money contributed by employer?
>
> Here's the calculation I have:
>
> My Contribution (1 yr) : 3917.99
> Employer Contribution (1 yr) : 1958.99
>
> Total (1 yr) : 5876.99
> Approx 5 % investment gain : 6170.84
>
> Now, if I would like to withdraw this money what all
> expenses would I have to be ready for

Federal and state income taxes + 10% (federal) of the amount
withdrawn. A mandatory 20% will be withheld at time of
distribution. This is a credit against your federal taxes,
and likely WILL NOT be enough to cover your tax liability
for the year.

> So, would the 10% penalty be on 6170.84?

Yes.

> On what amount would I have to pay taxes - my + employer
> contribution?

The total amount of the withdrawal, which includes your
contributions, employer match and earnings.

<< ======================================================= >>
<< The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, >>
<< nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties >>
<< that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. >>
<< >>
<< The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts >>
<< to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy >>
<< are at www.asktax.org. >>
<< Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. >>
<< ======================================================= >>

Posted by Phil Marti on November 10, 2006, 5:10 pm
Please log in for more thread options

> My Contribution (1 yr) : 3917.99
> Employer Contribution (1 yr) : 1958.99
>
> Total (1 yr) : 5876.99
> Approx 5 % investment gain : 6170.84
>
> Now, if I would like to withdraw this money what all
> expenses would I have to be ready for
>
> So, would the 10% penalty be on 6170.84?

Yes.

> On what amount would I have to pay taxes - my + employer
> contribution?

Yes.

I'm assuming you are not a US citizen. Before making any
decisions, check to see if there are any tax treaty
provisions that would cut you a break on this.

--
Phil Marti
Clarksburg, MD

<< ======================================================= >>
<< The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, >>
<< nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties >>
<< that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. >>
<< >>
<< The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts >>
<< to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy >>
<< are at www.asktax.org. >>
<< Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. >>
<< ======================================================= >>

Posted by A.G. Kalman on November 11, 2006, 10:35 am
Please log in for more thread options
puneet.maini@gmail.com wrote:

> Do you know what is the exact amount on which 10% penalty is
> imposed when you would withdraw money from your 401(k)
> account? Is it on the absolute amount you have in your
> 401(k) account?
>
> Some background info abt me:
> I work here in US, but plan to move/settle back overseas
> after like 3-4 years.
>
> Basically I want to know:
> Can I still make some money after the 10% penalty taking
> into consideration the money contributed by employer?
>
> Here's the calculation I have:
>
> My Contribution (1 yr) : 3917.99
> Employer Contribution (1 yr) : 1958.99
>
> Total (1 yr) : 5876.99
> Approx 5 % investment gain : 6170.84
>
> Now, if I would like to withdraw this money what all
> expenses would I have to be ready for
>
> So, would the 10% penalty be on 6170.84?
> On what amount would I have to pay taxes - my + employer
> contribution?

The 10% early withdrawal penalty is applied to the amount of
the taxable distribution not the balance in the account. If
your account consists of employer matching contributions,
your own pre-tax contributions plus any earnings, then any
distribution is 100% taxable and subject to the 10% penalty
unless you attained age 59 1/2 or meet one of the
exceptions.

<< ======================================================= >>
<< The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, >>
<< nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties >>
<< that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. >>
<< >>
<< The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts >>
<< to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy >>
<< are at www.asktax.org. >>
<< Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. >>
<< ======================================================= >>

Similar ThreadsPosted
savings bonds: claim early withdraw penalty (line 30?) January 1, 2007, 12:09 am
529 Withdrawal December 30, 2007, 2:40 pm
401k Withdrawal August 17, 2007, 12:02 am
Pension withdrawal January 29, 2008, 7:58 am
401K Withdrawal rollover tax liability April 25, 2007, 3:58 am
withdrawal of contributions from a Roth - Tax Forms January 9, 2008, 10:03 pm
ballpark tax calculation August 29, 2008, 10:12 am
Early IRA w/drawls May 10, 2007, 11:35 pm
Early distribution from an IRA April 20, 2008, 10:23 am
6251, line 16 calculation February 5, 2007, 8:02 pm

Contact Us | Privacy Policy
This site is not affiliated with Intuit - makers of Quickbooks and Quicken software
This site is not affiliated with Sage Software - makers of Peachtree accounting software
XML SitemapXML Sitemap