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529 plan rollover kastnna 05-06-2008
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Posted by kastnna on May 6, 2008, 5:50 pm
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A client wants to roll her state sponsored qualified pre-paid tuition
program into a 529 plan for her son. The state program does not allow
for direct trustee-to-trustee transfer, only 60-day rollovers. The
client received the check minus a $120 in maintenance and cancellation
fees.

Will the 1099 reflect the account value minus the $120 or will it be
included? If included, will she need to make-up the $120 out of her
own pocket?

Thanks.

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Posted by removeps-groups@yahoo.com on May 6, 2008, 11:11 pm
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> Will the 1099 reflect the account value minus the $120 or will it be
> included? If included, will she need to make-up the $120 out of her
> own pocket?

Probably the first way -- ie. the 1099-R gross distribution will be
the actual amount minus the $120. If you pay the penalty with post-
tax dollars, then you can deduct it as an adjustment to income, line
30 ("penalty on early withdrawal of savings").

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Posted by removeps-groups@yahoo.com on May 7, 2008, 10:56 am
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On May 6, 8:11 pm, "removeps-gro...@yahoo.com" <removeps-
gro...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Probably the first way -- ie. the 1099-R gross distribution will be
> the actual amount minus the $120. If you pay the penalty with post-
> tax dollars, then you can deduct it as an adjustment to income, line
> 30 ("penalty on early withdrawal of savings").

Sorry for typo, should be 1099-Q above. R is for rollovers from 401k
plans and such.

The penalty on early withdrawal of savings is listed on form 1099-
INT. The 1099-Q does not have a field for penalty, so I don't know if
you can deduct it. The following method is one that I considered: say
you contributed 5k to your 529 plan and did not receive a federal
deduction, and your earnings grew tax free by 1k, then of the $120
penalty 5/6*120=100 comes from the original 5k so is considered paid
with post-tax dollars, but I don't know if you can deduct it.

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