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Posted by Dick Adams on April 11, 2007, 11:28 pm
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A relative called me. He is filing SEVEN years of taxes
right now and was looking for sympathy and help. LOL
Why hasn't he filed returns all these years. My guess is
a combination of paranoia and incompetency. He actually
prepared the returns for 2006 through 2003, paid any taxes
due, and filed extensions. Here is his real problem, he has
refunds due from 2003 thru 2005, but will owe a chunk for
2006.
He is hoping the IRS will roll the refunds forward because
he has not filed for all these years and someone told him
they would not do so.
Anyone know what they will do?
I did tell him to send 2003 by certified mail in the morning
and never call me again if he does not!
Dick
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Posted by ConanOBrien on April 12, 2007, 6:13 pm
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> He is hoping the IRS will roll the refunds forward because
> he has not filed for all these years and someone told him
> they would not do so.
>
> Anyone know what they will do?
>
> I did tell him to send 2003 by certified mail in the morning
> and never call me again if he does not!
I have gone through this. A few pointers:
1. He should drop off the 2003 return at the nearest IRS
office, and get a date stamp on the copy ... and make sure
there is an *original* signature on the copy (dont just
photocopy the original after the original's been signed). I
had an IRS person once refuse to accept a return because my
photocopy didnt have an *original* signature. Why drop it
off and not just mail it? Because this close to the 3 year
statute, there are too many land mines with cert mail (both
in case law and US Mail potential screw-ups).... i just drop
these off.
2. Will the IRS roll the refunds fwd? Yes, but you need to
"stagger" the filing of the returns so the earlier ones get
into the system first. So obviously, file the 2003 return by
Friday... and wait on the later returns, filing each one
successively, as the prior ones get into the system. Why go
through this hassle? Because the IRS will fu** it up, that's
why. I once filed a 2000 return (with a refund carryforward
to 2001) and a 2001 return at the exact same time. The IRS
sent me the check for the 2000 return, thereby messing up my
credits on the 2001 return. I cashed the check (luckily 2001
had a refund coming anyway, without the year 2000 credit)
because i found out it would have been an administrative
nightmare to get things corrected (if they were correctable
at all).
Good luck.
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Posted by Phil Marti on April 12, 2007, 6:13 pm
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> A relative called me. He is filing SEVEN years of taxes
> right now and was looking for sympathy and help. LOL
Face it, Dick, you have a warm fuzzy persona that you just
can't shake.
> Why hasn't he filed returns all these years. My guess is
> a combination of paranoia and incompetency. He actually
> prepared the returns for 2006 through 2003, paid any taxes
> due, and filed extensions. Here is his real problem, he has
> refunds due from 2003 thru 2005, but will owe a chunk for
> 2006.
>
> He is hoping the IRS will roll the refunds forward because
> he has not filed for all these years and someone told him
> they would not do so.
>
> Anyone know what they will do?
They'll send him refunds. Tell him not to lose them.
--
Phil Marti
Clarksburg, MD
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Posted by PaulTry on April 12, 2007, 6:13 pm
Please log in for more thread options Dick Adams wrote:
> He is filing SEVEN years of taxes
> right now
>
> He is hoping the IRS will roll the refunds forward because
> he has not filed for all these years and someone told him
> they would not do so.
>
> Anyone know what they will do?
Delinquent return credit balances generally won't roll
forward but (as you know) their refunds will offset to the
oldest assessed liability. Does he owe for years prior to
2003? If not, he could file 2003 and prior and 2006 now;
file 2004 & 2005 after 2006 is assessed. He may get some
P&I benefit from the 2004 and 2005 refund offsets.
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Posted by ConanOBrien on April 13, 2007, 3:11 am
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> Delinquent return credit balances generally won't roll
> forward but (as you know) their refunds will offset to the
> oldest assessed liability. Does he owe for years prior to
> 2003? If not, he could file 2003 and prior and 2006 now;
> file 2004 & 2005 after 2006 is assessed. He may get some
> P&I benefit from the 2004 and 2005 refund offsets.
Really? I've filed delinquent returns several times (inside
the 3 year statute) and the credit balances have always
rolled forward. If he files 2003, 4, and 5, and rolls all
the credit balances forward to 2006, those credits would
function just like withholding, and significantly reduce any
2006 P&I.
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