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Amended Tax Return, Missing Forms kramer31 02-18-2008
Posted by kramer31 on February 18, 2008, 8:37 pm
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 Hi. The HR dept at my wife's job told her that they made a mistake
and that she would have to file an amended return. The problem is
that I don't think that we have backup copies of our 1099s and W-2s.
We shouldn't need them, right? The IRS already has them, yes? I
think that we have electronic copies of last year's 1040, etc.

I've also read that the IRS scrutinizes amended returns very closely.
Is that true? Is there anything in particular that they look for that
we should be careful of? I don't think we did anything wrong, but I
do NOT want to be audited. I'm a bit pissed at those HR idiots that
they gave us an inaccurate W-2, but I guess we have to file it.

Thanks for reading and thanks in advance for any assistance.

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Posted by Harlan Lunsford on February 18, 2008, 10:57 pm
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 kramer31 wrote:
> Hi. The HR dept at my wife's job told her that they made a mistake
> and that she would have to file an amended return. The problem is
> that I don't think that we have backup copies of our 1099s and W-2s.
> We shouldn't need them, right? The IRS already has them, yes? I
> think that we have electronic copies of last year's 1040, etc.
>
> I've also read that the IRS scrutinizes amended returns very closely.
> Is that true? Is there anything in particular that they look for that
> we should be careful of? I don't think we did anything wrong, but I
> do NOT want to be audited. I'm a bit pissed at those HR idiots that
> they gave us an inaccurate W-2, but I guess we have to file it.
>
> Thanks for reading and thanks in advance for any assistance.
>
When mistakes are made and corrected W2's have to be issued, it depends
on the magnitude of the error as to whether or not an amended return
need be filed. So don't be too hasty to condemn payroll department
(not HR!)

And IRS does NOT scrutinize amendments very closely. I've never had
a 1040x questioned in many many years of preparing them. Granted, one
that reflects abnormally higher deductions might catch their eye, though.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Posted by ebetts3 on February 19, 2008, 1:16 am
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> Hi.  The HR dept at my wife's job told her that they made a mistake
> and that she would have to file an amended return.  The problem is
> that I don't think that we have backup copies of our 1099s and W-2s.
> We shouldn't need them, right?  The IRS already has them, yes?  I
> think that we have electronic copies of last year's 1040, etc.
>
> I've also read that the IRS scrutinizes amended returns very closely.
> Is that true?  Is there anything in particular that they look for that
> we should be careful of?  I don't think we did anything wrong, but I
> do NOT want to be audited.  I'm a bit pissed at those HR idiots that
> they gave us an inaccurate W-2, but I guess we have to file it.
>
> Thanks for reading and thanks in advance for any assistance.
>
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Not to worry. They look at an amended return the same as a regular
filed return. They only negative is it is sent in by paper and IRS
has a horrible data entry error rate (22% by their own admission).
I've seen some very bad data entry error results.

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Posted by Medgya on February 19, 2008, 1:21 am
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Hi Kramer,

If you look at 1040X, essentially what you do is submit new version of
whatever forms you've had to modify, and fill in a few lines for key
numbers and how they have changed. Then you explain at the end why you
are making the amendment. So I don't think you need any of the old
W-2s or 1099s, and all you should need is the new documents that your
wife's company gave the IRS.

Anyway, take a look at 1040X and the instructions and it should be
(relatively) clear what you need to do. I'm sure the IRS does look
closely at amendments because it's complicated, plus they have to read
why you are making the changes and decide if that's valid or not. But
I'm not sure if they go too far beyond that. I expect they just look
at what has changed, and if that is OK, they move on to the next one.

Not that I know. I'm not an accountant, but I have had the misfortune
to file a bunch of 1040X forms over the past few years, and it's
always been fine. That said, one thing I've learned is to save copies
of absolutely everything! You never know when, years down the line,
you may need to know.

Oh, also, you can get a copy of your previous 1040 from the IRS. The
full copy, with attachments, costs $39, but there is a simpler version
that is free, I think. Check out www.irs.gov.

Good luck!

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