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Back taxes minimization Chip 10-23-2009
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Posted by Chip on October 23, 2009, 9:08 pm
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Without going into the gory details, I owe back taxes from 2006.
Obviously I owe them the actual taxes, interest and penalty. No crime,
just a combo of procrastination and confusion on how to file a employee
stock sale.

What's the best way to minimize the overall $$$$? Admit I was stupid,
and ask for their mercy, hire a lawyer, or one of those firms on late
night TV that claim to get you off with 10-15% of the total?


Chip

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Posted by DF2 on October 24, 2009, 9:52 am
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In misc.taxes.moderated, Chip wrote:

>Without going into the gory details, I owe back taxes from 2006.
>Obviously I owe them the actual taxes, interest and penalty. No crime,
>just a combo of procrastination and confusion on how to file a employee
>stock sale.
>
>What's the best way to minimize the overall $$$$? Admit I was stupid,
>and ask for their mercy, hire a lawyer, or one of those firms on late
>night TV that claim to get you off with 10-15% of the total?

I would look for a local EA (enrolled agent). You don't need a
lawyer.

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Posted by removeps-groups@yahoo.com on October 24, 2009, 2:12 pm
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> Without going into the gory details, I owe back taxes from 2006.
> Obviously I owe them the actual taxes, interest and penalty.  No crime,
> just a combo of procrastination and confusion on how to file a employee
> stock sale.

Was this a non qualified stock option, or employee stock purchase
plan? If yes, then the profit should have already been included in
your W-2 income, although you have to report the sale on Schedule D,
typically with net gain equal to the negative of the commissions (i.e.
a tiny net loss). If you exercised and held the shares for some time
before selling, then you have additional profit or loss.


> What's the best way to minimize the overall $$$$?  Admit I was stupid,
> and ask for their mercy, hire a lawyer, or one of those firms on late
> night TV that claim to get you off with 10-15% of the total?

How much money are we talking about here? And was the amount in
excess of 25% of your reported income?

I read somewhere that only 15% of offer-in-compromise offers are
accepted. Normally you have to pretty broke.

Now I could be wrong, but I think the worst case penalty for you is:
25% of the tax due (this is the penalty for failure to pay enough tax)
+ interest of about 8% a year (from 4/2007 to now is about 2.5 years
or 20%). I don't think the 25% failure to file penalty would exist
here. It's possible the IRS could waive the 25% penalty for failure
to pay enough tax because you've stepped forward on your own -- but
that's my common sense talking, not the law.

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Posted by Alan on October 24, 2009, 2:47 pm
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Chip wrote:
> Without going into the gory details, I owe back taxes from 2006.
> Obviously I owe them the actual taxes, interest and penalty. No crime,
> just a combo of procrastination and confusion on how to file a employee
> stock sale.
>
> What's the best way to minimize the overall $$$$? Admit I was stupid,
> and ask for their mercy, hire a lawyer, or one of those firms on late
> night TV that claim to get you off with 10-15% of the total?
>
>
> Chip
>
Impossible to give you an answer without a lot more facts. We
have no idea how much $ we're talking about; how complex your tax
return is; how many years we're discussing; your net worth; your
cash flow; etc.

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Posted by Mark Rigotti on October 27, 2009, 9:59 am
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> Without going into the gory details, I owe back taxes from 2006. Obviously
> I owe them the actual taxes, interest and penalty. No crime, just a combo
> of procrastination and confusion on how to file a employee stock sale.
>
> What's the best way to minimize the overall $$$$? Admit I was stupid, and
> ask for their mercy, hire a lawyer, or one of those firms on late night TV
> that claim to get you off with 10-15% of the total?
>
>
> Chip

Avoid the last option at all costs - I could forward to you the contact
information of at least a dozen clients that have tried that route. NONE
with any success.

My advise is work out a payment plan. The Offer in Comprimise route
requires 20% down (I believe) and if you are working and making money will
probably be turned down.

Regards,

Mark Rigotti

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