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Subject Author Date Calif. state tax question Nicholas 04-07-2008  Re: Calif. state tax question D. Stussy 04-07-2008  Re: Calif. state tax question Katie 04-08-2008  Re: Calif. state tax question Alan 04-12-2008  Re: Calif. state tax question Katie 04-12-2008  Re: Calif. state tax question Dick Adams 04-12-2008
Posted by Nicholas on April 7, 2008, 7:37 pm Please log in for more thread options We're Oregon residents and we were flown to Calif. to appear on a TV program last year. We were paid, and our payment had an amount withheld for "Calif. tax", and have received a 592B Nonresident Withholding Tax statement. Is there a procedure to recover that tax amount from Calif. or does it come out in the wash on our normal Fed return? -- << ------------------------------------------------------- >> << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, >> << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties >> << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. >> << >> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts >> << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy >> << are at www.asktax.org. >> << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. >> << ------------------------------------------------------- >> Posted by D. Stussy on April 7, 2008, 10:30 pm Please log in for more thread options > We're Oregon residents and we were flown to Calif. to appear on a TV > program last year. > We were paid, and our payment had an amount withheld for "Calif. tax", > and have received a 592B Nonresident Withholding Tax statement. > > Is there a procedure to recover that tax amount from Calif. or does it > come out in the wash on our normal Fed return? File a CA form 540NR. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- >> << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, >> << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties >> << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. >> << >> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts >> << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy >> << are at www.asktax.org. >> << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. >> << ------------------------------------------------------- >> Posted by Katie on April 8, 2008, 12:25 am Please log in for more thread options > We're Oregon residents and we were flown to Calif. to appear on a TV > program last year. > We were paid, and our payment had an amount withheld for "Calif. tax", > and have received a 592B Nonresident Withholding Tax statement. > > Is there a procedure to recover that tax amount from Calif. or does it > come out in the wash on our normal Fed return? You have California source income arising from this activity. You need to file a nonresident return (Form 540NR, as Stussy says) to calculate the tax, and claim credit for the tax that was withheld. Usually, when one is a resident of one state and has income from a source in another state, the residence state allows credit for the tax paid to the source state, so that, net, one pays state income tax on that income at the higher of the two states' average rates for the taxpayer's filing status, income level, number of dependents, etc. Oregon and California, however, stand in a reverse relationship whereby the source state allows credit for the tax paid to the residence state. When you prepare your 540NR, include Schedule S to claim credit against the California tax for the tax you paid to Oregon on that income. You may not get all of the withholding back, but you'll probably get most of it. Katie in San Diego -- << ------------------------------------------------------- >> << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, >> << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties >> << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. >> << >> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts >> << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy >> << are at www.asktax.org. >> << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. >> << ------------------------------------------------------- >> Posted by Alan on April 12, 2008, 11:51 am Please log in for more thread options Katie wrote: >> We're Oregon residents and we were flown to Calif. to appear on a TV >> program last year. >> We were paid, and our payment had an amount withheld for "Calif. tax", >> and have received a 592B Nonresident Withholding Tax statement. >> >> Is there a procedure to recover that tax amount from Calif. or does it >> come out in the wash on our normal Fed return? > > > You have California source income arising from this activity. You > need to file a nonresident return (Form 540NR, as Stussy says) to > calculate the tax, and claim credit for the tax that was withheld. > > Usually, when one is a resident of one state and has income from a > source in another state, the residence state allows credit for the tax > paid to the source state, so that, net, one pays state income tax on > that income at the higher of the two states' average rates for the > taxpayer's filing status, income level, number of dependents, etc. > Oregon and California, however, stand in a reverse relationship > whereby the source state allows credit for the tax paid to the > residence state. When you prepare your 540NR, include Schedule S to > claim credit against the California tax for the tax you paid to Oregon > on that income. You may not get all of the withholding back, but > you'll probably get most of it. > > Katie in San Diego > Katie, Do you have and can make available or do you know where one might find a list of states that have the reverse relationship you mention in your post? On a related manner, there is a list of states that have reciprocal agreements with each other at http://www.payroll-taxes.com/articles/reciprocals.html. Are you aware of any changes to that list? Feel free not to respond to this as I know you are busy right now. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- >> << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, >> << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties >> << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. >> << >> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts >> << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy >> << are at www.asktax.org. >> << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. >> << ------------------------------------------------------- >> Posted by Katie on April 12, 2008, 4:41 pm Please log in for more thread options > Katie wrote: snip > > > Usually, when one is a resident of one state and has income from a > > source in another state, the residence state allows credit for the tax > > paid to the source state, so that, net, one pays state income tax on > > that income at the higher of the two states' average rates for the > > taxpayer's filing status, income level, number of dependents, etc. > > Oregon and California, however, stand in a reverse relationship > > whereby the source state allows credit for the tax paid to the > > residence state.  When you prepare your 540NR, include Schedule S to > > claim credit against the California tax for the tax you paid to Oregon > > on that income.  You may not get all of the withholding back, but > > you'll probably get most of it. > > > Katie in San Diego > > Katie, > > Do you have and can make available or do you know where one might > find a list of states that have the reverse relationship you > mention in your post? > > On a related manner, there is a list of states that have > reciprocal agreements with each other athttp://www.payroll-taxes.com/articles/reciprocals.html. Are you > aware of any changes to that list? > > Feel free not to respond to this as I know you are busy right now. > I believe these are all current, although I haven't checked in a while. CA allows credit to residents of AZ, OR, IN, VA, and Guam. AZ allows credit to residents of CA, OR, IN, VA, and DC. OR allows credit to residents of AZ, CA, IN, and VA. IN allows credit to residents of AZ, CA, OR, and DC. VA allows credit to residents of AZ, CA, OR, and DC. And I presume, although I don't know for sure, that Guam allows credit to residents of California. Katie in San Diego -- << ------------------------------------------------------- >> << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, >> << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties >> << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. >> << >> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts >> << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy >> << are at www.asktax.org. >> << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. >> << ------------------------------------------------------- >> Similar Threads Posted Re: Calif. state tax question April 12, 2008, 5:21 pm Calif. tax refunds and state IOU's (warrants) January 11, 2009, 2:10 pm Calif. 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