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Can I get a second extension? (Fed and NYS...) Kevin 07-06-2009
Posted by Kevin on July 6, 2009, 2:31 pm
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There is an open issue and I can't file until I resolve it. It doesn't seem
like it will be settled anytime soon.

I will get a small refund, both Federal and NYS, no matter what happens.
Can I get a second extension?

I can file and then file an ammended return as needed, but I have heard that
significantly increases your audit chances.

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Posted by Mark Bole on July 6, 2009, 3:08 pm
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Kevin wrote:
> There is an open issue and I can't file until I resolve it. It doesn't seem
> like it will be settled anytime soon.

You're the same Kevin with the questions about the installment sale from
a month or two ago, right?

I'm still trying to figure out if what you mean by "escrow" is the same
thing as what I mean... ;-)


> I will get a small refund, both Federal and NYS, no matter what happens.
> Can I get a second extension?

No.


> I can file and then file an ammended return as needed, but I have heard that
> significantly increases your audit chances.

Probably no more so than filing late... but I'm not sure "what you
heard" is true or relevant. There are always some audits that are
conducted purely at random, so your best bet is to have good record-keeping.

-Mark Bole

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Posted by Arthur Kamlet on July 6, 2009, 3:33 pm
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>Kevin wrote:
>
>> I will get a small refund, both Federal and NYS, no matter what happens.
>> Can I get a second extension?
>
>No.
>
>
>> I can file and then file an ammended return as needed, but I have heard that
>> significantly increases your audit chances.
>
>Probably no more so than filing late... but I'm not sure "what you
>heard" is true or relevant. There are always some audits that are
>conducted purely at random, so your best bet is to have good record-keeping.


On the one hand, every amended return is looked at by a real, live
tax-knowldgeable IRS employee, so in that regard, the return will
be scrutinized more.


But an audit is merely a verificaion that what has been reported is
correct. Yes, it can cause work to be done, but I don't believe
fear of audit should stop taxpayers from claiming their correct
income, deductions and credits.
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ArtKamlet at a o l dot c o m Columbus OH K2PZH

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Posted by Alan on July 6, 2009, 3:53 pm
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Arthur Kamlet wrote:
>> Kevin wrote:
>>
>>> I will get a small refund, both Federal and NYS, no matter what happens.
>>> Can I get a second extension?
>> No.
>>
>>
>>> I can file and then file an ammended return as needed, but I have heard that
>>> significantly increases your audit chances.
>> Probably no more so than filing late... but I'm not sure "what you
>> heard" is true or relevant. There are always some audits that are
>> conducted purely at random, so your best bet is to have good record-keeping.
>
>
> On the one hand, every amended return is looked at by a real, live
> tax-knowldgeable IRS employee, so in that regard, the return will
> be scrutinized more.
>
>
> But an audit is merely a verificaion that what has been reported is
> correct. Yes, it can cause work to be done, but I don't believe
> fear of audit should stop taxpayers from claiming their correct
> income, deductions and credits.
I'm taken by your use of the term: "real, live tax-knowldgeable
(sic) IRS employee". It evokes an image of having one's tax
return reviewed by someone other than the person you describe:
Such as a dead person, who is impersonating an IRS employee who
knows nothing about taxes.

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Posted by Arthur Kamlet on July 6, 2009, 4:11 pm
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>Arthur Kamlet wrote:
>>> Kevin wrote:
>>>
>>>> I will get a small refund, both Federal and NYS, no matter what happens.
>>>> Can I get a second extension?
>>> No.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I can file and then file an ammended return as needed, but I have
>heard that
>>>> significantly increases your audit chances.
>>> Probably no more so than filing late... but I'm not sure "what you
>>> heard" is true or relevant. There are always some audits that are
>>> conducted purely at random, so your best bet is to have good record-keeping.
>>
>>
>> On the one hand, every amended return is looked at by a real, live
>> tax-knowldgeable IRS employee, so in that regard, the return will
>> be scrutinized more.
>>
>>
>> But an audit is merely a verificaion that what has been reported is
>> correct. Yes, it can cause work to be done, but I don't believe
>> fear of audit should stop taxpayers from claiming their correct
>> income, deductions and credits.
>I'm taken by your use of the term: "real, live tax-knowldgeable
>(sic) IRS employee". It evokes an image of having one's tax
>return reviewed by someone other than the person you describe:
>Such as a dead person, who is impersonating an IRS employee who
>knows nothing about taxes.


OK.


I was trying to distinguish between computer-processed returns,
not seen by any tax employee, and also to distinguish a tax person
from a data entry clerk.


A 1040X is seen by someone with tax knowledge, and is not merely
fed through a computer.
--

ArtKamlet at a o l dot c o m Columbus OH K2PZH

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