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Charitable deductions Dick Adams 06-12-2008
Posted by Dick Adams on June 17, 2008, 2:55 pm
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>> The 501(c)(3) earns 99%+ of its revenues from fees for
>> certifying judges and sanctioning competitions which
>> it then advertises to its members as volunteer
>> opportunities. On the face of it without any additional
>> paperwork, are the reasonable travel and lodging expenses
>> of the judges deductible as a charitable contribution
>> even though the organizers (who rarely make a profit) are
>> not 501(c)(3)'s?

> So the purpose of your travel is to support the goal of
> the 501(c)(3) organization? Do you meet all the criteria
> required for deducting charitable travel (e.g. spend
> sufficient time each day on the charity's business rather
> than your own recreation)? In that case, I'd say it ought
> to be deductible.

Thank you. What I need is a Circular 230 preparer to write
a covered opinion to that extent.

Dick

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Posted by Harlan Lunsford on June 17, 2008, 3:02 pm
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Dick Adams wrote:
>
>>> The 501(c)(3) earns 99%+ of its revenues from fees for
>>> certifying judges and sanctioning competitions which
>>> it then advertises to its members as volunteer
>>> opportunities. On the face of it without any additional
>>> paperwork, are the reasonable travel and lodging expenses
>>> of the judges deductible as a charitable contribution
>>> even though the organizers (who rarely make a profit) are
>>> not 501(c)(3)'s?
>
>> So the purpose of your travel is to support the goal of
>> the 501(c)(3) organization? Do you meet all the criteria
>> required for deducting charitable travel (e.g. spend
>> sufficient time each day on the charity's business rather
>> than your own recreation)? In that case, I'd say it ought
>> to be deductible.
>
> Thank you. What I need is a Circular 230 preparer to write
> a covered opinion to that extent.
>
> Dick
>
Stay tuned. I'm calculating my fee right now!

ChEAr$,
Harlan

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Posted by Stuart Bronstein on June 17, 2008, 4:24 pm
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rdadams@panix.com (Dick Adams) wrote:
>
>>> The 501(c)(3) earns 99%+ of its revenues from fees for
>>> certifying judges and sanctioning competitions which
>>> it then advertises to its members as volunteer
>>> opportunities. On the face of it without any additional
>>> paperwork, are the reasonable travel and lodging expenses
>>> of the judges deductible as a charitable contribution
>>> even though the organizers (who rarely make a profit) are
>>> not 501(c)(3)'s?
>
>> So the purpose of your travel is to support the goal of
>> the 501(c)(3) organization? Do you meet all the criteria
>> required for deducting charitable travel (e.g. spend
>> sufficient time each day on the charity's business rather
>> than your own recreation)? In that case, I'd say it ought
>> to be deductible.
>
> Thank you. What I need is a Circular 230 preparer to write
> a covered opinion to that extent.

I've looked into this issue briefly. If the nonprofit receives fees
for sanctioning the event, and part of that is based on supplying
qualifying judges, it seems to me that the travel expenses may well
be deductible.

See Reg. 1.170-2(a)(2)"

"No deduction is allowable for contribution of services. However,
unreimbursed expenditures made incident to the rendition of services
to an organization contributions to which are deductible may
constitute a deductible contribution. For example, the cost of a
uniform without general utility which is required to be worn in
performing donated services is deductible. Similarly, out-of-pocket
transportation expenses necessarily incurred in rendering donated
services are deductible. Reasonable expenditures for meals and
lodging necessarily incurred while away from home in the course of
rendering donated services also are deductible. For the purposes of
this section, the phrase while away from home has the same meaning as
that phrase is used for purposes of section 162."

I think I can find the time to write the opinion for you.

Stu

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Posted by Dick Adams on June 17, 2008, 5:25 pm
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> rdadams@panix.com (Dick Adams) wrote:

>>>> The 501(c)(3) earns 99%+ of its revenues from fees for
>>>> certifying judges and sanctioning competitions which
>>>> it then advertises to its members as volunteer
>>>> opportunities. On the face of it without any additional
>>>> paperwork, are the reasonable travel and lodging expenses
>>>> of the judges deductible as a charitable contribution
>>>> even though the organizers (who rarely make a profit) are
>>>> not 501(c)(3)'s?

>>> So the purpose of your travel is to support the goal of
>>> the 501(c)(3) organization? Do you meet all the criteria
>>> required for deducting charitable travel (e.g. spend
>>> sufficient time each day on the charity's business rather
>>> than your own recreation)? In that case, I'd say it ought
>>> to be deductible.

>> Thank you. What I need is a Circular 230 preparer to write
>> a covered opinion to that extent.

> I've looked into this issue briefly. If the nonprofit
> receives fees for sanctioning the event, and part of that
> is based on supplying qualifying judges, it seems to me
> that the travel expenses may well be deductible.
>
> See Reg. 1.170-2(a)(2)"
>
> "No deduction is allowable for contribution of services.
> However, unreimbursed expenditures made incident to the
> rendition of services to an organization contributions
> to which are deductible may constitute a deductible
> contribution. For example, the cost of a uniform without
> general utility which is required to be worn in performing
> donated services is deductible. Similarly, out-of-pocket
> transportation expenses necessarily incurred in rendering
> donated services are deductible. Reasonable expenditures
> for meals and lodging necessarily incurred while away from
> home in the course of rendering donated services also are
> deductible. For the purposes of this section, the phrase
> while away from home has the same meaning as that phrase
> is used for purposes of section 162."
>
> I think I can find the time to write the opinion for you.

Hopefully, your fee is less than Harlan's. But two letters
are better than one. <g>

Dick

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Posted by dpb on June 17, 2008, 5:31 pm
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Stuart Bronstein wrote:
...
> unreimbursed expenditures made incident to the rendition of services
> to an organization contributions to which are deductible ...

This is only indirectly related, but the question raised a related one
in my mind --

I read the above earlier and wondered but could find no
clarification--is _any_ organization which is 501(c) (3) an
"organization contributions to which are deductible" solely by virtue of
being that?

To bring it back to the point of the thread ( :) ); if yes, I agree w/
Stu providing the "sensibility" test is passed.

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