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Claiming ONE parent as dependent gtd068a 02-21-2008
Posted by gtd068a on February 21, 2008, 10:26 am
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I live with my parents. Even though my father is above the $3500
income threshold for claiming parents dependent, my mother falls well
below the threshold. Can I claim my mother as dependent on my tax
returns assuming I provide more than 50% support for her, which I
easily do? If I claim her on my tax returns, will my father and mother
still file "married filing jointly?" I understand that if they file
togethr, their standard deduction will be reduced because I have
claimed her.

Thanks in advance for your help.
IK

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Posted by Alan on February 21, 2008, 11:03 am
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gtd068a wrote:
> I live with my parents. Even though my father is above the $3500
> income threshold for claiming parents dependent, my mother falls well
> below the threshold. Can I claim my mother as dependent on my tax
> returns assuming I provide more than 50% support for her, which I
> easily do? If I claim her on my tax returns, will my father and mother
> still file "married filing jointly?" I understand that if they file
> togethr, their standard deduction will be reduced because I have
> claimed her.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> IK
>
Your parents could still file a joint return without impacting
your dependency exemption ONLY if the reason they file is to
obtain a full refund of withheld taxes. If they file for any
other reason, e.g. to obtain an advance payment (aka "tax
rebate') on 2008 taxes, she could not be your dependent.

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Posted by gtd068a on February 21, 2008, 11:39 am
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> gtd068a wrote:
> > I live with my parents. Even though my father is above the $3500
> > income threshold for claiming parents dependent, my mother falls well
> > below the threshold. Can I claim my mother as dependent on my tax
> > returns assuming I provide more than 50% support for her, which I
> > easily do? If I claim her on my tax returns, will my father and mother
> > still file "married filing jointly?" I understand that if they file
> > togethr, their standard deduction will be reduced because I have
> > claimed her.
>
> > Thanks in advance for your help.
> > IK
>
> Your parents could still file a joint return without impacting
> your dependency exemption ONLY if the reason they file is to
> obtain a full refund of withheld taxes.  If they file for any
> other reason, e.g. to obtain an advance payment (aka "tax
> rebate') on 2008 taxes, she could not be your dependent.
>
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Thank you very much for your reply. Can you please clarify one issue?
My father will get a refund but not for the entire amount of taxes he
paid. He should get about 80% of paid taxes back. So when you say
"full refund" does that mean that his tax liability for the year(2007)
has to be zero for me to claim my mother as dependent or can I still
claim her as long as my father is getting majority of the taxes he
paid in 2007 back?

Again, thank you in advance.
IK

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Posted by Alan on February 21, 2008, 12:00 pm
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gtd068a wrote:
[snip]
>
> Thank you very much for your reply. Can you please clarify one issue?
> My father will get a refund but not for the entire amount of taxes he
> paid. He should get about 80% of paid taxes back. So when you say
> "full refund" does that mean that his tax liability for the year(2007)
> has to be zero for me to claim my mother as dependent or can I still
> claim her as long as my father is getting majority of the taxes he
> paid in 2007 back?
>
> Again, thank you in advance.
> IK
>
If they file a joint return, there is a joint refund... not a
refund for your father. So.. if they file a joint return and
there is still a tax liability then you can not claim either
parent as a dependent.

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Posted by gtd068a on February 21, 2008, 2:58 pm
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> gtd068a wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > Thank you very much for your reply. Can you please clarify one issue?
> > My father will get a refund but not for the entire amount of taxes he
> > paid. He should get about 80% of paid taxes back. So when you say
> > "full refund" does that mean that his tax liability for the year(2007)
> > has to be zero for me to claim my mother as dependent or can I still
> > claim her as long as my father is getting majority of the taxes he
> > paid in 2007 back?
>
> > Again, thank you in advance.
> > IK
>
> If they file a joint return, there is a joint refund... not a
> refund for your father. So.. if they file a joint return and
> there is still a tax liability then you can not claim either
> parent as a dependent.
>
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Thank you very much for your help. Hopefully you can clarify one more
time!

So in order for me to claim my mother as dependent (assuming we meet
the criteria that I provided more than 50% support and she made less
than $3,500), my father would have to file a tax return as "married
filing seperatly." In addition, the fact that he does not owe any
taxes and getting about 80% of the taxes he paid last year back
satisfies the conditon that he has no tax liability? In the case
that my father files as "married filing sepertly", my mother would
still have to file a tax return even though she made no money and she
is being claimed as dependent on some one else's tax return??
Am I correct in this thinking?

Here are the facts to better illustrate the situation:
Father: made over $3,500, IRS owes him about 80% of the taxes he paid
in 2007
Mother: made no money in 2007, lives with me, I virtually fully
support her.
Can I claim her as dependent as long as father files a return "married
filing seperatly" and mother also files as "marrief filing seperatly?"
Thank you in advance.
Ik

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