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Co-mingled Roth - distribution of earnings? tom 04-30-2007
Posted by tom on April 30, 2007, 11:22 am
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I opened a Roth IRA in '98 with a normal contribution.
Since then, I have made several additional yearly
contributions, as well as several Conversions (regular IRA
to Roth IRA). All the conversions were done less than 5
years ago.

I'm now over 59 1/2. My understanding is that:

- I can withdraw my contributions (no penalty, no tax) --
at any time.
- I can then withdraw all my conversions (no penalty, no tax)
because I'm over 59 1/2.

My main question concerns the Earnings. Since my Roth is
co-mingled, I don't know which earnings came from the
Contributions and which came from the Conversions. If I
withdraw all my Earnings, would it be penalty-free and
tax-free because I'm over 59 1/2 and my _original_ Roth was
opened more than 5 years ago? Or would there be some taxes
because my Conversions were done less than 5 years ago?

- Tom

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Posted by Phil Marti on May 1, 2007, 7:12 pm
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> I opened a Roth IRA in '98 with a normal contribution.
> Since then, I have made several additional yearly
> contributions, as well as several Conversions (regular IRA
> to Roth IRA). All the conversions were done less than 5
> years ago.
>
> I'm now over 59 1/2. My understanding is that:
>
> - I can withdraw my contributions (no penalty, no tax) --
> at any time.
> - I can then withdraw all my conversions (no penalty, no tax)
> because I'm over 59 1/2.
>
> My main question concerns the Earnings.

Since your Roth is more than 5 years old and you're over 59
1/2, ALL distributions from here out are "qualified,"
meaning there is no tax or penalty. The ordering rules in
IRS Publication 590 are for nonqualified distributions, and
the 5 year aging of individual conversions is relevant only
to the premature distribution penalty.

--
Phil Marti
Clarksburg, MD

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Posted by tom on May 3, 2007, 2:23 pm
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That's great news. Thanks for the info!

- Tom
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