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Definition of NJ Gross Receipts Allan Martin 02-10-2008
Posted by Allan Martin on February 10, 2008, 2:45 pm
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A New Jersey S-Corp sold its only asset, rental real estate located in NJ
in 2007. For purposes of calculating the minimum tax for the CBT-100S should
the sales price of property be classified as all other business receipts
earned in New Jersey?

Is there any source were the definition for NJ Gross Receipts is given?

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Posted by Benjamin Yazersky CPA on February 11, 2008, 7:46 am
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> A New Jersey S-Corp sold its only asset, rental real estate located in NJ
> in 2007. For purposes of calculating the minimum tax for the CBT-100S should
> the sales price of property be classified as all other business receipts
> earned in New Jersey?
>
> Is there any source were the definition for NJ Gross Receipts is given?
>
> --

If you sold rental property, it is most likely a capital gain.
You should consult your own CPA/tax advisor.


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Posted by Allan Martin on February 11, 2008, 2:11 pm
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>> A New Jersey S-Corp sold its only asset, rental real estate located in
>> NJ
>> in 2007. For purposes of calculating the minimum tax for the CBT-100S
>> should
>> the sales price of property be classified as all other business receipts
>> earned in New Jersey?
>>
>> Is there any source were the definition for NJ Gross Receipts is given?
>>
>> --
>
> If you sold rental property, it is most likely a capital gain.
> You should consult your own CPA/tax advisor.

Ben, I am the CPA, my question concerns the minimum tax for the CBT-100S.



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Posted by Katie on February 11, 2008, 3:14 pm
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> A New Jersey S-Corp sold its only asset,  rental real estate located in NJ
> in 2007. For purposes of calculating the minimum tax for the CBT-100S should
> the sales price of property be classified as all other business receipts
> earned in New Jersey?
>
> Is there any source were the definition for NJ Gross Receipts is given?
>
The definition of NJ gross receipts is in N.J. Admin. Code 18:7-18.1,
and it isn't a lot more detailed than the list on the form. The form
instructions are no help either. The only place where a sale of real
(as opposed to tangible personal) property would fit, as you suggest,
is under "other business receipts earned in New Jersey."

The best reference I found for this is in a Q&A issued by the NJ
Department of Revenue on January 1, 2004. The response to Question 42
is that for purposes of the alternative minimum assessment, the
Corporation Business Tax sales factor numerator rules will be used to
determine NJ gross receipts. New Jersey Corporation Business Surtax
and Minimum Tax Changes, 07/11/2006, says the new minimum tax
definition of NJ gross receipts is the same as for the AMA.
Sooooo....it appears we should look to the CBT apportionment rules.
N.J. Admin. Code 18:7-8.12 lists sales of capital assets and sales of
real property under "other business receipts," so we must be on the
right track.

For sales of capital assets, that reg refers to N.J. Admin. Code
18:7-8.9, which says:

"(a) The gross receipts from sales of capital assets (property not
held by the taxpayer for sale to customers in the regular course of
business) either within or without New Jersey should not be included
in either the numerator or denominator of the receipts fraction. The
net gains from such sales which are included in entire net income are
the amounts which are properly to be included in the computation of
the receipts fraction."

"(b) Where the taxpayer's business is the buying and selling of real
estate or the buying or selling of securities for trading purposes,
these assets are not deemed to be capital assets and the gross
receipts from the sales thereof are included in the same manner as
other includable receipts."

If the property sold was a capital asset in the hands of the S
corporation, the net gain, not the gross receipt, is "NJ gross
receipts." If the corporation's business was buying and selling real
estate, the gross receipt would be "NJ gross receipts." Either way,
it goes under Item 5, "Other business receipts earned in New Jersey."

Whew!

Katie in San Diego

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Posted by Allan Martin on February 11, 2008, 6:38 pm
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>> A New Jersey S-Corp sold its only asset, rental real estate located in NJ
>> in 2007. For purposes of calculating the minimum tax for the CBT-100S
>> should
>> the sales price of property be classified as all other business receipts
>> earned in New Jersey?
>>
>> Is there any source were the definition for NJ Gross Receipts is given?
>>
> The definition of NJ gross receipts is in N.J. Admin. Code 18:7-18.1,
> and it isn't a lot more detailed than the list on the form. The form
> instructions are no help either. The only place where a sale of real
> (as opposed to tangible personal) property would fit, as you suggest,
> is under "other business receipts earned in New Jersey."
>
> The best reference I found for this is in a Q&A issued by the NJ
> Department of Revenue on January 1, 2004. The response to Question 42
> is that for purposes of the alternative minimum assessment, the
> Corporation Business Tax sales factor numerator rules will be used to
> determine NJ gross receipts. New Jersey Corporation Business Surtax
> and Minimum Tax Changes, 07/11/2006, says the new minimum tax
> definition of NJ gross receipts is the same as for the AMA.
> Sooooo....it appears we should look to the CBT apportionment rules.
> N.J. Admin. Code 18:7-8.12 lists sales of capital assets and sales of
> real property under "other business receipts," so we must be on the
> right track.
>
> For sales of capital assets, that reg refers to N.J. Admin. Code
> 18:7-8.9, which says:
>
> "(a) The gross receipts from sales of capital assets (property not
> held by the taxpayer for sale to customers in the regular course of
> business) either within or without New Jersey should not be included
> in either the numerator or denominator of the receipts fraction. The
> net gains from such sales which are included in entire net income are
> the amounts which are properly to be included in the computation of
> the receipts fraction."
>
> "(b) Where the taxpayer's business is the buying and selling of real
> estate or the buying or selling of securities for trading purposes,
> these assets are not deemed to be capital assets and the gross
> receipts from the sales thereof are included in the same manner as
> other includable receipts."
>
> If the property sold was a capital asset in the hands of the S
> corporation, the net gain, not the gross receipt, is "NJ gross
> receipts." If the corporation's business was buying and selling real
> estate, the gross receipt would be "NJ gross receipts." Either way,
> it goes under Item 5, "Other business receipts earned in New Jersey."
>
> Whew!

Wow, thanks for all the work you put into your answer. The client made a
large profit on the sale of the real estate which still puts them at of
maximum $2,000 level.

Just wondering out loud, what if the taxpaper sold the property at a loss
could they report a negative "Other Gross Receipts earned in New Jersey"?





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