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Estimated taxes when do they kick in Kurt Ullman 06-19-2007
Posted by Kurt Ullman on June 19, 2007, 9:30 pm
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My daughter works full time (with withholding, etc.) but has
started up a small business on the side. Is there some
number (either specific dollars or other metric) where she
should start worrying about estimated taxes? Don't want any
nasty surprises in APril.

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Posted by Herb Smith on June 21, 2007, 5:43 pm
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> My daughter works full time (with withholding, etc.) but has
> started up a small business on the side. Is there some
> number (either specific dollars or other metric) where she
> should start worrying about estimated taxes? Don't want any
> nasty surprises in APril.

As long as her 2007 withholding is equal or greater than her
2006 tax liability, she does not have to worry about
estimated taxes this year. There would be no
underwithholding penalty.

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Posted by Kurt Ullman on June 24, 2007, 10:41 pm
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>> My daughter works full time (with withholding, etc.) but has
>> started up a small business on the side. Is there some
>> number (either specific dollars or other metric) where she
>> should start worrying about estimated taxes? Don't want any
>> nasty surprises in APril.

> As long as her 2007 withholding is equal or greater than her
> 2006 tax liability, she does not have to worry about
> estimated taxes this year. There would be no
> underwithholding penalty.

Okay, thanks.

Kurt

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Posted by ed on June 21, 2007, 5:43 pm
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> My daughter works full time (with withholding, etc.) but has
> started up a small business on the side. Is there some
> number (either specific dollars or other metric) where she
> should start worrying about estimated taxes? Don't want any
> nasty surprises in APril.

When her withholding will not cover the amount of the prior
year's tax, or 90% of the current year's tax (whichever is
less or these "safe harbors") she will owe a penalty for the
shortage, computed at 8% simple interest on the underpayment
for the time it was underpaid.

Unfortuantely when she discovers this inadequatacy it is too
late to avoid a penalty by paying an "installment " or
"estimated payment" so she should increase her withholding
appropriately (to meet one of the "safe harbors") because
withholding is considered paid evenly throughout the year,
but an estimate payment is not.

Note the last year's tax safe harbor has nothing to do with
how much she'll owe next April, but she's got at least 3
months to figure it out.

ed

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Posted by Kurt Ullman on June 24, 2007, 10:41 pm
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>> My daughter works full time (with withholding, etc.) but has
>> started up a small business on the side. Is there some
>> number (either specific dollars or other metric) where she
>> should start worrying about estimated taxes? Don't want any
>> nasty surprises in APril.

> When her withholding will not cover the amount of the prior
> year's tax, or 90% of the current year's tax (whichever is
> less or these "safe harbors") she will owe a penalty for the
> shortage, computed at 8% simple interest on the underpayment
> for the time it was underpaid.

Okay, so I'll have her look at increasing withholding,
because she did have to pay a little bit extra but only for
about 2 months of "da biz"

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