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Federal Phone tax refund stanmancini 12-30-2006
Posted by stanmancini on December 30, 2006, 2:48 pm
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 I have all my old bills for all my phone lines. Can anyone
tell me which of the federal taxes are to be included in the
refund? My carrier is Verizon

I have for federal taxes:
Federal subscriber line charge
Federal universal service fee
Federal universal service fee long distance
Federal excise tax

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Posted by ebetts3 on December 31, 2006, 11:50 pm
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 stanmancini@yahoo.com wrote:

> I have all my old bills for all my phone lines. Can anyone
> tell me which of the federal taxes are to be included in the
> refund? My carrier is Verizon
>
> I have for federal taxes:
> Federal subscriber line charge
> Federal universal service fee
> Federal universal service fee long distance
> Federal excise tax

The 3% federal excise tax on long distance charges. Why not
just take the IRS safe harbor amounts of $30, $40, $50 or
$60 based on 1, 2, 3 or 4 or more people on the return?

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Posted by Bob Sandler on December 31, 2006, 11:50 pm
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> I have all my old bills for all my phone lines. Can anyone
> tell me which of the federal taxes are to be included in the
> refund? My carrier is Verizon
>
> I have for federal taxes:
> Federal subscriber line charge
> Federal universal service fee
> Federal universal service fee long distance
> Federal excise tax

The federal excise tax is what is being refunded.

The universal service fee is not a tax. It is a fee that the
phone company has to pay. They are allowed to pass it on to
the customer, but are not required to do so. Verizon (and
probably every other carrier) chooses to bill you for it.
They try to make it look like a tax so that you won't
complain.

Bob Sandler

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Posted by larry_mc on January 5, 2007, 8:05 am
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>> I have all my old bills for all my phone lines. Can anyone
>> tell me which of the federal taxes are to be included in the
>> refund? My carrier is Verizon
>>
>> I have for federal taxes:
>> Federal subscriber line charge
>> Federal universal service fee
>> Federal universal service fee long distance
>> Federal excise tax

> The federal excise tax is what is being refunded.
>
> The universal service fee is not a tax. It is a fee that the
> phone company has to pay. They are allowed to pass it on to
> the customer, but are not required to do so. Verizon (and
> probably every other carrier) chooses to bill you for it.
> They try to make it look like a tax so that you won't
> complain.

Take a look at the form 8913 before you get too excited. I
doubt the time to complete the form is worth the small, if
any, extra refund above the "standard amount". And if you
use the 8913 for any phone you must use it for every phone -
separate forms for each phone. The "standard amount" covers
all phones.

Larry McClellan

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Posted by shakahshakah on January 19, 2007, 1:01 am
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larry_mc@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>>> I have all my old bills for all my phone lines. Can anyone
>>> tell me which of the federal taxes are to be included in the
>>> refund? My carrier is Verizon
>>>
>>> I have for federal taxes:
>>> Federal subscriber line charge
>>> Federal universal service fee
>>> Federal universal service fee long distance
>>> Federal excise tax

>> The federal excise tax is what is being refunded.

> Take a look at the form 8913 before you get too excited. I
> doubt the time to complete the form is worth the small, if
> any, extra refund above the "standard amount". And if you
> use the 8913 for any phone you must use it for every phone -
> separate forms for each phone. The "standard amount" covers
> all phones.

FWIW, I just looked through a few month's worth of (old)
bills -- it comes out to around $2/month for me (Verizon
flat rate plan along with two cell phones).

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