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Forming LLC to avoid self-employment taxes. Haskel LaPort 04-22-2008
Posted by D. Stussy on April 24, 2008, 9:44 pm
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> > Why would the formation of an LLC do anything? It is a disregarded
entity
> > for federal taxation purposes.
> >
> Only single member LLCs default to disregarded entities for federal
> tax purposes. 2 or more member LLCs default to partnership treatment.

Yes, but it's ALREADY a partnership, so what would recasting it as an LLC
gain for tax purposes? I see none.

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Posted by Harlan Lunsford on April 24, 2008, 3:26 pm
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D. Stussy asked:
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> Why would the formation of an LLC do anything? It is a disregarded entity
> for federal taxation purposes.
>
Because there are other than tax reasons for forming an entity.

I know that sometimes we in the business think only in terms of tax
implications and perhaps lose sight of more valuable legal reasons.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Posted by D. Stussy on April 24, 2008, 9:44 pm
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> D. Stussy asked:
> >
> > Why would the formation of an LLC do anything? It is a disregarded
entity
> > for federal taxation purposes.
> >
> Because there are other than tax reasons for forming an entity.
>
> I know that sometimes we in the business think only in terms of tax
> implications and perhaps lose sight of more valuable legal reasons.

Well, the title of the thread makes it clear that the ONLY consideration was
tax avoidance, but I don't see that at all....

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Posted by removeps-groups@yahoo.com on April 24, 2008, 10:26 am
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> I was requested by a taxpayer to look at a 1065 prepared by his accountant.
> The taxpayer purchased a business in 2007 using funds provided by a mortgage
> on his personal residence. Because the property is half owned by his wife,
> she insisted on having a ½ interest in the new business. The attorney formed
> an LLC naming both the husband and wife as equal partners and that both
> assets and income were to be divided 50/50. The wife is not involved with
> the running of the business.
>
> The accountant divided the 2007 $60,000 profit evenly on the 1065 but
> reported only the husband's half as self-employment income and the wife's
> as passive income and not self-employment income. Is there any justification
> for how the accountant handled this situation?

Here's my guess: What is the FMV salary for the husband? If it is
60k or more, then I think all of the 60k should go to him as salary,
and he's have SS and Medicare on all of it. If the FMV salary is 50k,
then he should get 50k as salary, and the remaining 10k should be
distributions. If the LLC is taxed as an S Corp, then both husband
and wife should get 5k as they each have 50% of the shares. But
anyway, hope someone else knows better than me.

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Posted by Harlan Lunsford on April 24, 2008, 3:28 pm
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> Here's my guess: What is the FMV salary for the husband? If it is
> 60k or more, then I think all of the 60k should go to him as salary,
> and he's have SS and Medicare on all of it. If the FMV salary is 50k,
> then he should get 50k as salary, and the remaining 10k should be
> distributions. If the LLC is taxed as an S Corp, then both husband
> and wife should get 5k as they each have 50% of the shares. But

Each should get equal salary just because they are equal owners? I
would never recommend such to a client. Equal pay for equal work, yes;
but not proportionately according to ownership. Whatever is left over,
profits, is so apportioned.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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