Home Page link  

Health Care Reimbursement Account (HCRA) Policy Question and Pointer?

 

Taxes General Forum - Tax professionals meeting place and answers to queries. (Moderated)

 Post an article  get this group's latest topics as an RSS feed add this group's latest topics to your My MSN content add this group's latest topics to your My Yahoo content  add this group's latest topics to your Google content  YahooMyWeb Yahoo!  Google Google  Windows Live Favorites Windows Live  del.icio.us del.icio.us  digg digg  Add to Netscape Netscape
Subject Author Date
Health Care Reimbursement Account (HCRA) Policy Question and Pointer? Andrew 02-04-2008
Posted by Andrew on February 4, 2008, 9:18 pm
Please log in for more thread options

Hopefully this fits in with the guidelines of this tax NG. If not, sorry!

Does anyone know exactly where the rules are (in some Federal tax code,
perhaps) that stipulates the rules regarding HCRA and the fact that if you
don't use up your declared value, you lose the money? And where some
discussion might be that explains WHY that rule is the way it is?

My daughter decided against using the HCRA for her first year in the work
force because she didn't know what her annual bills out of pocket would be
and is nervous about foregoing hard earned cash. Thus, she loses out on the
value of the savings. (I know she could REALLY low-ball the figure, but
then, what's the point??)

Seems to me (without perhaps understanding the reasons) why 'they' could
simply give you the same tax benefit without a third party holding onto your
money, and losing it if you estimate too much. The rules are onerous on
this it is, for this example, causing my kid not to participate.

I don't want to get into a discussion about this here; just the pointers so
I can get into the discussion with my Congress person. I'm pretty annoyed.
Must be something I'm missing.

--
-------------------------------------------------------------
Regards -

- Andrew

--
<< ------------------------------------------------------- >>
<< The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, >>
<< nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties >>
<< that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. >>
<< >>
<< The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts >>
<< to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy >>
<< are at www.asktax.org. >>
<< Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. >>
<< ------------------------------------------------------- >>

Posted by Alan on February 4, 2008, 11:06 pm
Please log in for more thread options
Andrew wrote:
> Hopefully this fits in with the guidelines of this tax NG. If not, sorry!
>
> Does anyone know exactly where the rules are (in some Federal tax code,
> perhaps) that stipulates the rules regarding HCRA and the fact that if you
> don't use up your declared value, you lose the money? And where some
> discussion might be that explains WHY that rule is the way it is?
>
> My daughter decided against using the HCRA for her first year in the work
> force because she didn't know what her annual bills out of pocket would be
> and is nervous about foregoing hard earned cash. Thus, she loses out on the
> value of the savings. (I know she could REALLY low-ball the figure, but
> then, what's the point??)
>
> Seems to me (without perhaps understanding the reasons) why 'they' could
> simply give you the same tax benefit without a third party holding onto your
> money, and losing it if you estimate too much. The rules are onerous on
> this it is, for this example, causing my kid not to participate.
>
> I don't want to get into a discussion about this here; just the pointers so
> I can get into the discussion with my Congress person. I'm pretty annoyed.
> Must be something I'm missing.
>
http://www.taxalmanac.org/index.php/Notice_2005-42 explains it.

--
<< ------------------------------------------------------- >>
<< The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, >>
<< nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties >>
<< that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. >>
<< >>
<< The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts >>
<< to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy >>
<< are at www.asktax.org. >>
<< Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. >>
<< ------------------------------------------------------- >>

Posted by cballard@tyyni.net on February 5, 2008, 1:22 pm
Please log in for more thread options
> Hopefully this fits in with the guidelines of this tax NG.  If not, sorry!
>
> Does anyone know exactly where the rules are (in some Federal tax code,
> perhaps) that stipulates the rules regarding HCRA and the fact that if you
> don't use up your declared value, you lose the money?  And where some
> discussion might be that explains WHY that rule is the way it is?
>
> My daughter decided against using the HCRA for her first year in the work
> force because she didn't know what her annual bills out of pocket would be
> and is nervous about foregoing hard earned cash.  Thus, she loses out on the
> value of the savings. (I know she could REALLY low-ball the figure, but
> then, what's the point??)

The reason that the money has to be used up or forfeited is because of
Internal Revenue Code section 125(d)(2)(A), which says that a
cafeteria plan arrangement (including HCRAs) are not permitted to
provide deferred comensation. If it's any consolation, the
disadvantage actually cuts both ways: if your daughter were to leave
her job and had used up more of the HCRA for the year than she had put
into it, the employer is stuck with the loss.

--Chris

--
<< ------------------------------------------------------- >>
<< The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, >>
<< nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties >>
<< that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. >>
<< >>
<< The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts >>
<< to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy >>
<< are at www.asktax.org. >>
<< Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. >>
<< ------------------------------------------------------- >>

Similar ThreadsPosted
HCRA which year to count reimbursement? February 11, 2008, 3:51 pm
Health Savings Account and Second Payer Health Plan May 8, 2008, 4:25 pm
Self-Employed Health Insurance Premium Reimbursement April 15, 2008, 2:03 am
Health Savings Account February 25, 2007, 5:00 am
Health Savings Account contributions September 8, 2007, 12:26 am
Health Savings Account Distribution for Insurance Premium December 27, 2007, 6:52 pm
flexible spending account dependent care June 29, 2007, 6:07 pm
Dealing with surprise restriction on dependent care account April 23, 2006, 2:02 am
Dependent Care Flexible Spending Account - Does it save money? March 18, 2007, 2:18 am
Question about Flex Spending Accounts (Health) November 13, 2006, 8:09 pm

Contact Us | Privacy Policy
This site is not affiliated with Intuit - makers of Quickbooks and Quicken software
This site is not affiliated with Sage Software - makers of Peachtree accounting software
XML SitemapXML Sitemap