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House payment tax and interest ded? Mike 07-02-2007
Posted by Phil Marti on July 3, 2007, 4:08 am
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> Clients divorced in 2007. The divorce decree states the male
> (who I expect will continue to be our client) must make
> payments on the house but it is in the x-wife's name and she
> lives there, not him.
>
> Is there anyway I havn't thought of to claim the tax and
> interest on his Sch A?

None that I can think of, assuming he gets no ownership
interest in the house.

Have you taken a look at the alimony angle? I haven't looked
at this in years, but there's something rattling around in my
head about a series of payments being treated as alimony
regardless of what the decree might call it.

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Phil Marti
Clarksburg, MD

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Posted by Herb Smith on July 3, 2007, 4:23 am
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> Clients divorced in 2007. The divorce decree states the male
> (who I expect will continue to be our client) must make
> payments on the house but it is in the x-wife's name and she
> lives there, not him.
>
> Is there anyway I havn't thought of to claim the tax and
> interest on his Sch A?

Does the husband make the payments directly, or give the ex
the money and she makes the payments?

If the latter, you might be able to make a case for this
being alimony or spousal support - deductible as an "above
the line" deduction on his 1040 form. Concurrently, the
ex-wife would have to claim this alimony as taxable income,
but could deduct the interest and property taxes on her
1040/Schedule A.

For him to be able to deduct these items on his Schedule A,
he must have an ownership interest (taxes) or be liable for
the mortgage debt.

Moderator:
Sticking ny neck out without reading the code: I would
argue that the direct payments to the mortgage lender are
for the economic benefit of the ex-spouse and as such are
alimony unless the divorce decree or the code say
different.

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Posted by Phil Marti on July 4, 2007, 10:57 pm
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> For him to be able to deduct these items on his Schedule A,
> he must have an ownership interest (taxes) or be liable for
> the mortgage debt.

I assume he is liable for the mortgage debt, but I still
don't see a Schedule A deduction. That's available only for
home mortgage interest (it's no longer his primary or second
home) or investment interest (he has no ownership interest).

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Phil Marti
Clarksburg, MD

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Posted by Mike on July 4, 2007, 10:57 pm
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>> Clients divorced in 2007. The divorce decree states the male
>> (who I expect will continue to be our client) must make
>> payments on the house but it is in the x-wife's name and she
>> lives there, not him.
>>
>> Is there anyway I havn't thought of to claim the tax and
>> interest on his Sch A?

> Does the husband make the payments directly, or give the ex
> the money and she makes the payments?
>
> If the latter, you might be able to make a case for this
> being alimony or spousal support - deductible as an "above
> the line" deduction on his 1040 form. Concurrently, the
> ex-wife would have to claim this alimony as taxable income,
> but could deduct the interest and property taxes on her
> 1040/Schedule A.
>
> For him to be able to deduct these items on his Schedule A,
> he must have an ownership interest (taxes) or be liable for
> the mortgage debt.
>
> Moderator:
> Sticking ny neck out without reading the code: I would
> argue that the direct payments to the mortgage lender are
> for the economic benefit of the ex-spouse and as such are
> alimony unless the divorce decree or the code say
> different.

He makes the payments directly. BTW, one important piece of
info I left out......we're in TX and have no alimony here.

mike

Moderator:
Since Texas has no State income tax (yet!), there is no
Teaxas issue here. The IRC determines what is alimony
for federal tax purposes.

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Posted by Stuart Bronstein on July 5, 2007, 11:51 pm
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>> Moderator:
>> Sticking ny neck out without reading the code: I would
>> argue that the direct payments to the mortgage lender are
>> for the economic benefit of the ex-spouse and as such are
>> alimony unless the divorce decree or the code say
>> different.

> He makes the payments directly. BTW, one important piece of
> info I left out......we're in TX and have no alimony here.

If it's not alimony, what is it?

Family support works, but child support does not. It sure
doesn't sound like a property division, though I suppose it
could be depending on the circumstances.

Stu

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