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Housing & Economic Recovery Act Passes Congress Alan 07-26-2008
Posted by Alan on July 26, 2008, 12:36 pm
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HR 3221 has passed both houses and Pres. Bush says he will sign it.

Text is at: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.3221.EAS2:

JCT explanation of Division C tax provisions is at:
http://www.house.gov/jct/x-63-08.pdf

Senate Summary of other provisions is at:
http://banking.senate.gov/public/_files/UpdateHousingandEconomicRecoveryActSummary3.pdf

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Posted by Alan on July 26, 2008, 3:36 pm
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Alan wrote:
> HR 3221 has passed both houses and Pres. Bush says he will sign it.
>
> Text is at: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.3221.EAS2:
>
> JCT explanation of Division C tax provisions is at:
> http://www.house.gov/jct/x-63-08.pdf
>
> Senate Summary of other provisions is at:
>
http://banking.senate.gov/public/_files/UpdateHousingandEconomicRecoveryActSummary3.pdf
>
>
The JCT explanation describes a version of the bill that differs
slightly from the final relating to the First-Time Homebuyer Credit.


The amount of the credit identified by the JCT is the lesser of
10% of purchase price or $7500 ($3750 if MFS). The final bill
changed $7500 to $8000 and $3750 to $4000.

JCT refers to a provision to allow 1Q09 purchases to be treated
as if purchased in 2008 to allow a 2008 tax credit. This
provision was removed from the final version.

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Posted by Paul Thomas on July 26, 2008, 4:58 pm
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> The amount of the credit identified by the JCT is the lesser of 10% of
> purchase price or $7500 ($3750 if MFS). The final bill changed $7500 to
> $8000 and $3750 to $4000.






Did the 15 year payback survive? If so, does anyone believe that in 2012 a
new client will tell you that they owe an extra $500 because in 08 or 09
they bought a house and took the credit?

I suspect this is another "economic stimulus" for the guy who sells paper
and envelopes to the IRS.




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Posted by Alan on July 26, 2008, 5:39 pm
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Paul Thomas wrote:
>> The amount of the credit identified by the JCT is the lesser of 10% of
>> purchase price or $7500 ($3750 if MFS). The final bill changed $7500 to
>> $8000 and $3750 to $4000.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Did the 15 year payback survive? If so, does anyone believe that in 2012 a
> new client will tell you that they owe an extra $500 because in 08 or 09
> they bought a house and took the credit?
>
> I suspect this is another "economic stimulus" for the guy who sells paper
> and envelopes to the IRS.
>
>
>
>
You add 6.667% of the credit to your tax bill in each year for 15
years starting in the second taxable year after the credit is
taken. There is also recapture if the home is disposed of or
ceases to be your principal residence. There are also rules for
divorces, involuntary conversions and situations where recapture
exceeds gain on sale. And naturally, the credit phases out when
your income gets too high.

As for IRS tracking recapture... I see no reason why their
computers can't look for the 6.667% add back in future years for
each taxpayer that claims the credit in 2008 and 2009.

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Posted by Harlan Lunsford on July 26, 2008, 9:00 pm
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Alan wrote:
> Paul Thomas wrote:
>>> The amount of the credit identified by the JCT is the lesser of 10%
>>> of purchase price or $7500 ($3750 if MFS). The final bill changed
>>> $7500 to $8000 and $3750 to $4000.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Did the 15 year payback survive? If so, does anyone believe that in
>> 2012 a new client will tell you that they owe an extra $500 because in
>> 08 or 09 they bought a house and took the credit?
>>
>> I suspect this is another "economic stimulus" for the guy who sells
>> paper and envelopes to the IRS.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> You add 6.667% of the credit to your tax bill in each year for 15 years
> starting in the second taxable year after the credit is taken. There is
> also recapture if the home is disposed of or ceases to be your principal
> residence. There are also rules for divorces, involuntary conversions
> and situations where recapture exceeds gain on sale. And naturally, the
> credit phases out when your income gets too high.
>
> As for IRS tracking recapture... I see no reason why their computers
> can't look for the 6.667% add back in future years for each taxpayer
> that claims the credit in 2008 and 2009.
>
Likewise they can, upon divorce of a joint return filer, track each ex
spouse for 3.3335%?

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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