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How to report disability insurance income? curiousgeorge408 02-19-2008
Posted by curiousgeorge408 on February 19, 2008, 6:42 pm
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My sister received income from disability insurance in 2007.

Should she expect a form that reports the income and deductions?
If so, what form?

Or would the income and deductions be reported on the W-2
from her employer?

Where does she report the income on Form 1040?

(The answer is self-evident if all this should be reported on the
W-2 from her employer.)

She remained an employee while receiving disability payments.

This was not worker's compensation.

The insurance is underwritten by a third party. It is part of a
voluntary disability insurance plan offered by her employer.
Premiums were paid by a deduction from her paychecks.

FICA was withheld from the disability payments, but not
income taxes (surprise?).

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Posted by Harlan Lunsford on February 19, 2008, 8:09 pm
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curiousgeorge408@hotmail.com wrote:
> My sister received income from disability insurance in 2007.
>
> Should she expect a form that reports the income and deductions?
> If so, what form?
>
> Or would the income and deductions be reported on the W-2
> from her employer?
>
> Where does she report the income on Form 1040?
>
> (The answer is self-evident if all this should be reported on the
> W-2 from her employer.)
>
> She remained an employee while receiving disability payments.
>
> This was not worker's compensation.
>
> The insurance is underwritten by a third party. It is part of a
> voluntary disability insurance plan offered by her employer.
> Premiums were paid by a deduction from her paychecks.
>
> FICA was withheld from the disability payments, but not
> income taxes (surprise?).
>
She should have already received a W2 from the third party IF those
premiums were "pre tax". And it sounds like it, since FICA was withheld.
this is what I've seen from Unum, a big insurance company up in
Maine.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Posted by Benjamin Yazersky CPA on February 19, 2008, 10:53 pm
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> curiousgeorge...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > My sister received income from disability insurance in 2007.
>
> > Should she expect a form that reports the income and deductions?
> > If so, what form?
>
> > Or would the income and deductions be reported on the W-2
> > from her employer?
>
> > Where does she report the income on Form 1040?
>
> > (The answer is self-evident if all this should be reported on the
> > W-2 from her employer.)
>
> > She remained an employee while receiving disability payments.
>
> > This was not worker's compensation.
>
> > The insurance is underwritten by a third party. It is part of a
> > voluntary disability insurance plan offered by her employer.
> > Premiums were paid by a deduction from her paychecks.
>
> > FICA was withheld from the disability payments, but not
> > income taxes (surprise?).
>
> She should have already received a W2 from the third party IF those
> premiums were "pre tax". And it sounds like it, since FICA was withheld.
> this is what I've seen from Unum, a big insurance company up in
> Maine.
>
> ChEAr$,
> Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA
>
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That w2 from the Ins co should NOT be FICA or medicare wages


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Posted by Harlan Lunsford on February 20, 2008, 5:57 pm
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Benjamin Yazersky CPA wrote:
>> curiousgeorge...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> My sister received income from disability insurance in 2007.
>>> Should she expect a form that reports the income and deductions?
>>> If so, what form?
>>> Or would the income and deductions be reported on the W-2
>>> from her employer?
>>> Where does she report the income on Form 1040?
>>> (The answer is self-evident if all this should be reported on the
>>> W-2 from her employer.)
>>> She remained an employee while receiving disability payments.
>>> This was not worker's compensation.
>>> The insurance is underwritten by a third party. It is part of a
>>> voluntary disability insurance plan offered by her employer.
>>> Premiums were paid by a deduction from her paychecks.
>>> FICA was withheld from the disability payments, but not
>>> income taxes (surprise?).
>> She should have already received a W2 from the third party IF those
>> premiums were "pre tax". And it sounds like it, since FICA was withheld.
>> this is what I've seen from Unum, a big insurance company up in
>> Maine.
>>
>> ChEAr$,
>> Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA
>>
>> --
>
>
> That w2 from the Ins co should NOT be FICA or medicare wages
>
>
I agree; BUT.... it often is. However, just FICA and not the 1.45%
for medicare. Go figure.
(They don't)

ChEAr$,
Harlan

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Posted by curiousgeorge408 on February 19, 2008, 11:04 pm
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> She should have already received a W2 from the third party
> IF those premiums were "pre tax". And it sounds like it,
> since FICA was withheld.

Thanks so much for your prompt reply.

Yes, that is what I learned from
http://www.wwwebtax.com/income/long_term_disability.htm .
And yes, I learned that the premium payments were pre-tax
-- a cafeteria plan.

Although I think that web site tells me almost everything I
needed to know, your response answers one lingering
question. I wasn't sure if the W-2 would come from the
insurance company, or if the disability benefits and
deductions would simply be included on the employer's
W-2. I guess it is the former.

Thanks again.

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