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IRA question garagecapital 11-02-2006
|--> Re: IRA question Barry Margolin11-04-2006
Posted by garagecapital on November 2, 2006, 11:56 pm
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If I work for my company for the month of Janary and then
quit working for the year (and earn about $5K that month and
$4K-$5K of it goes into a 403b plan), can I also put $5K
into an IRA? (I am over 50.)

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Posted by Herb Smith on November 4, 2006, 10:35 pm
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garagecapital@gmail.com wrote:

> If I work for my company for the month of Janary and then
> quit working for the year (and earn about $5K that month and
> $4K-$5K of it goes into a 403b plan), can I also put $5K
> into an IRA? (I am over 50.)

Both your qualified retirement plan (403b) and IRA must be
funded with "taxable compensation", or earned income. If I
understand your question, you will only have $5K of earnings
in the calendar year, so that is the limit of what can be
contributed -- in toto -- to the two plans.

I guess that makes the answer to your question - NO.

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Posted by Arthur Kamlet on November 4, 2006, 10:35 pm
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> If I work for my company for the month of Janary and then
> quit working for the year (and earn about $5K that month and
> $4K-$5K of it goes into a 403b plan), can I also put $5K
> into an IRA? (I am over 50.)

Sure you can put that 5000 into an IRA.

But your AGI will determine if you can deduct it, and if you
cannot deduct it, might want to put it into a Roth IRA.

You are considered covered by a qualified plan even if you
were covered one day in that year. So the AGI phase out for
deducting your IRA contributions for a Single taxpayer
begins at 50,000 and is phased out entirely at 60,000.

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Art Kamlet ArtKamlet @ AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH

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Posted by Mark Bole on November 4, 2006, 10:35 pm
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garagecapital@gmail.com wrote:

> If I work for my company for the month of Janary and then
> quit working for the year (and earn about $5K that month and
> $4K-$5K of it goes into a 403b plan), can I also put $5K
> into an IRA? (I am over 50.)

If you were covered for even one day under an employer
retirement plan, it counts for the entire year. The amount
you contributed to the 403b plan in irrelevant.

You can always make a traditional IRA contribution up to the
allowed amount. Given that you were an active participant
in an employer plan, your ability to DEDUCT that
contribution may be limited, depending on your modified
adjusted gross income. There are worksheets available with
most software packages, as well as Table 17-1 of IRS
Publication 17.

If you are married and your spouse was not an active
participant, there may be increased deductiblity if the
contribution is made by the spouse.

-Mark Bole

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Posted by Mark Bole on November 4, 2006, 10:35 pm
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Mark Bole wrote:
> garagecapital@gmail.com wrote:

>> If I work for my company for the month of Janary and then
>> quit working for the year (and earn about $5K that month and
>> $4K-$5K of it goes into a 403b plan), can I also put $5K
>> into an IRA? (I am over 50.)

> If you were covered for even one day under an employer retirement plan,
> it counts for the entire year. The amount you contributed to the 403b
> plan in irrelevant.
>
> You can always make a traditional IRA contribution up to the allowed
> amount. Given that you were an active participant in an employer plan,
> your ability to DEDUCT that contribution may be limited, depending on
> your modified adjusted gross income. There are worksheets available
> with most software packages, as well as Table 17-1 of IRS Publication 17.
>
> If you are married and your spouse was not an active participant, there
> may be increased deductiblity if the contribution is made by the spouse.

To elaborate on "allowed amount", I forgot to mention the
compensation test. If you had no additional compensation
for the year, nor did your spouse (if any), then no, you are
not allowed a contribution beyond your compensation amount.

-Mark Bole

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