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Massachusetts IRA distribution joetaxpayer 03-06-2007
Posted by Dan Lanciani on March 11, 2007, 4:09 am
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sethb@panix.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:

>> After a few iterations I proposed that I should send another
>> copy of my response return-receipt. He said that I
>> absolutely shouldn't do that because it would confuse them.

> Why are you supposed to consider that a bad thing?

I suppose I was to assume that such confusion would work
against me. I thought it was a rather odd thing to say (let
alone to repeat) but then we didn't seem to be communicating
too well. I actually included a cover letter indicating
that all the attached material duplicated my previous
submission. Just in case.

                                Dan Lanciani
                                ddl@danlan.*com

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Posted by Mark Bole on March 7, 2007, 4:49 am
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joetaxpayer wrote:

> I don't know how other states handle this, but MA does not
> allow a deduction. Therefore, it exempts all distributions
> that are the deposits to one's IRA (i.e. they will start
> taxing only after all deposits are withdrawn). The form's
> question is "total contributions previously taxed by
> Massachusetts".
>
> So, unlike Non-deductable IRA deposits, which are tracked
> via 8606, how would this be handled? There is no form that
> tracked this over the years. Hoping a fellow bean-towner or
> someone living in a similar state (in both senses) can set
> me straight.

In California, in the past there have been different
deductible amounts for IRA's vs. federal (in other words,
non-conformance).

This sounds like your situation, only a difference in
percent deduction disallowed (100% vs. a lesser percent).

This is simply shown as an adjustment on schedule CA (540),
California Adjustments. Suppose the IRA distribution for
federal purposes was $10,000, but only $8,000 was previously
tax-deductible for CA -- then you would simply show a
"subtraction" adjustment of $2,000 on line 15 of the CA
schedule.

It could be tracked by a self-prepared worksheet, but no
official form that I know of.

-Mark Bole

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Posted by Missy on March 11, 2007, 12:23 pm
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>> do you just go back and research the
>> year IRAs started ($2,000 right?) and add up the assumed
>> deposits, declaring that to be the MA 'basis'? If not that,
>> what? I can't be the first to run into this. (you'd think
>> the MA forms would track deposits) I understand your
>> response, and suppose this would be a warning I'd give
>> people just starting out, but it's the first this problem
>> has come up for me.

> A lot of old timers here that I'm sure remember IRA's
> started in 1974 as 1500.00 and changed to 2000.00 in 1981.
>
> I've always kept a list of IRA contributions for this
> purpose and I always advise my clients to keep all tax
> returns forever.

Bill, are you calling me an old timer??? I just got on
medicare, so I am not that old.... I remember it well...

Missy Doyle

Moderator:
And I'm 17 - only my body aged.

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Posted by Katie on March 27, 2007, 1:02 am
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>> If someone can post a good reference for this (the annual
>> IRA limits) that would be much appreciated....

> The limits are available by googling: "Legislative History
> of IRAs". The CBO site gives a complete set of limits.

Hey, that's a great reference! Thanks!

Katie in San Diego

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