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Montessori School for preschool o2bacpa 12-15-2006
Posted by o2bacpa on December 15, 2006, 9:59 am
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I have twin 4-year olds in a Montessori school. It is
called children's house and one of my daughters takes a nap
during the day. However, everything is designed to be
educational...from squeezing orange juice from an orange
(strengthens muscles used in writing) to learning to read
using a moveable alphabet. I am conflicted as to whether
this is appropriate for my husbands flexible spending plan.
We both work. Their class is mixed ages 3-6 year olds.

Thanks!

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Posted by Bill Brown on December 16, 2006, 8:39 pm
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o2bacpa wrote:

> I have twin 4-year olds in a Montessori school. It is
> called children's house and one of my daughters takes a nap
> during the day. However, everything is designed to be
> educational...from squeezing orange juice from an orange
> (strengthens muscles used in writing) to learning to read
> using a moveable alphabet. I am conflicted as to whether
> this is appropriate for my husbands flexible spending plan.
> We both work. Their class is mixed ages 3-6 year olds.

I do not know any working parents with a choice who would
not place their young children in a day care environment
that provided educational activities. Having day care be an
educational experience for a pre-K age child is NOT a
consideration in determining whether the cost qualifies for
the child care credit (or tax free FRP reimbursement).

Personally, I wouldn't squeeze an orange for any reason
other than to get orange juice to drink but I'm older, wiser
and more cynical than the typical pre-schooler.

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Posted by bono9763@yahoo.com on December 16, 2006, 8:39 pm
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> I have twin 4-year olds in a Montessori school. It is
> called children's house and one of my daughters takes a nap
> during the day. However, everything is designed to be
> educational...from squeezing orange juice from an orange
> (strengthens muscles used in writing) to learning to read
> using a moveable alphabet. I am conflicted as to whether
> this is appropriate for my husbands flexible spending plan.
> We both work. Their class is mixed ages 3-6 year olds.

The IRS considers programs for anyone younger than
kindergarten to be daycare, not educational expense. So
expenses for a 4-year old would be daycare, not tuition, and
would be eligible for reimbursement from a dependent care
FSA.

Dennis

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Posted by Paul Thomas, CPA on December 16, 2006, 8:58 pm
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> I have twin 4-year olds in a Montessori school. It is
> called children's house and one of my daughters takes a nap
> during the day. However, everything is designed to be
> educational...from squeezing orange juice from an orange
> (strengthens muscles used in writing) to learning to read
> using a moveable alphabet. I am conflicted as to whether
> this is appropriate for my husbands flexible spending plan.
> We both work. Their class is mixed ages 3-6 year olds.

If you're asking if it's childcare, it's childcare. Even if
some portion of the daily program entails an educational
nature. When they get to a pre-K program (next year maybe?)
then that portion is going to be school, and the rest will
be childcare. The school should be able to segregate the
school fees from "childcare" fees when that happens.

--
Paul Thomas, CPA
paulthomascpapc@bellsouth.net

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Posted by joetaxpayer on December 16, 2006, 8:58 pm
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o2bacpa wrote:

> I have twin 4-year olds in a Montessori school. It is
> called children's house and one of my daughters takes a nap
> during the day. However, everything is designed to be
> educational...from squeezing orange juice from an orange
> (strengthens muscles used in writing) to learning to read
> using a moveable alphabet. I am conflicted as to whether
> this is appropriate for my husbands flexible spending plan.
> We both work. Their class is mixed ages 3-6 year olds.

For DCA to be applicable, the primary gates are; Must be to
enable both parents to work or look for work (no stay at
home mom/dad) Won't cover Kindergarten or private school
Cannot be for overnight camp

There's a presumption that pre-school isn't offered by the
state and as you describe your situation, it's covered. But
plans' rules may be different by how a given employer
interprets the rules. So the real answer must come from
hubby's HR department.

JOE

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