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Moving mileage Dick Adams 08-15-2009
---> Re: Moving mileage Stuart A. Bronstein08-16-2009
Posted by Dick Adams on August 15, 2009, 4:31 pm
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The young girl who live with me asked me a relevant question.
Even she somehow thinks I know taxes.

My son goes off to college this month.
- Does he qualify for mileage expenses for moving?
He better because I told him we were renting out his room.
- Because Susan will be driving Joshua the 115 miles, she wants
to know if she gets to write-off the 230 mile round trip as
a moving expense.

I know the amount is trival, but Susan is the poster child for
frugality. My first wife spent money like a drunken sailor.
Susan's idea of being extravagant is to bake extra cookies.

Dick

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Posted by Arthur Kamlet on August 15, 2009, 5:21 pm
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>The young girl who live with me asked me a relevant question.
>Even she somehow thinks I know taxes.
>
>My son goes off to college this month.
> - Does he qualify for mileage expenses for moving?
> He better because I told him we were renting out his room.


Let's review the reasons one can claim mileage on a tax return:


1. Moving Expenses -- to be closer to work. Has to be work related
and there are a few tests to be met. See Pub 521

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p521.pdf


If it is work related, and work incidental to being a full-time student
might have big trouble passing these tests, the mileage reimbursement is
the same rate as medical mileage.

2. Medical -- pretty liberal but must be for legitimate medical reasons.


3. Job related -- highest reimbursement rate but must be job related and
no commuting mileage is allowed.

4. Charitable milage - most liberal rules but lowest milaeage rate, because
while Congress gave the IRS the right to set mileage for business, moving, and
medical, Congress reserves for themslves the right to set charitable mileage.


> - Because Susan will be driving Joshua the 115 miles, she wants
> to know if she gets to write-off the 230 mile round trip as
> a moving expense.
>
>I know the amount is trival, but Susan is the poster child for
>frugality. My first wife spent money like a drunken sailor.
>Susan's idea of being extravagant is to bake extra cookies.


I do give you both lots of credit for creativity. But no moving
costs.


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You report the rental of his room on Schedule E :^)
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Posted by Mark Bole on August 16, 2009, 11:27 am
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Arthur Kamlet wrote:
>> The young girl who live with me asked me a relevant question.
>> Even she somehow thinks I know taxes.
>>
>> My son goes off to college this month.
>> - Does he qualify for mileage expenses for moving?
>> He better because I told him we were renting out his room.

> 1. Moving Expenses -- to be closer to work. Has to be work related
> and there are a few tests to be met. See Pub 521
[...]
> If it is work related, and work incidental to being a full-time student
> might have big trouble passing these tests, the mileage reimbursement is
> the same rate as medical mileage.

Although you could also use actual gas and oil expenses instead of
mileage rate.

>> - Because Susan will be driving Joshua the 115 miles, she wants
>> to know if she gets to write-off the 230 mile round trip as
>> a moving expense.

> You report the rental of his room on Schedule E :^)

Susan is not moving, therefore she could not write off expenses on her
return in any case (you can't deduct moving expenses for family members
unless it is due to them moving with you). If Joshua owes no tax,
moving expenses wouldn't help him either.

Questions about temporary absence at college for dependents have come up
here before. If the situation was such that Joshua did meet the tests
for his own moving expense adjustment, it seems to me that fact, coupled
with you renting out his (former) room, could lead to him no longer
meeting the residence test to be your qualifying child (and therefore
almost certainly he would no longer be your dependent).

-Mark Bole

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Posted by Stuart A. Bronstein on August 16, 2009, 5:12 pm
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rdadams@panix.com (Dick Adams) wrote:

> The young girl who live with me asked me a relevant question.
> Even she somehow thinks I know taxes.
>
> My son goes off to college this month.
> - Does he qualify for mileage expenses for moving?
> He better because I told him we were renting out his room.
> - Because Susan will be driving Joshua the 115 miles, she wants
> to know if she gets to write-off the 230 mile round trip as
> a moving expense.

We've talked about deductibility of "contributions" to the beer-
judging nonprofit. Is Joshua going to a school in a state where he's
legal to drink beer? Perhaps you could say you are sending him there
to support the beer judging organizaiton and deduct some of it that
way.

That's all I can think of at the moment.

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Posted by HLunsford on August 18, 2009, 1:42 pm
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Stuart A. Bronstein wrote:
> rdadams@panix.com (Dick Adams) wrote:
>
>> The young girl who live with me asked me a relevant question.
>> Even she somehow thinks I know taxes.
>>
>> My son goes off to college this month.
>> - Does he qualify for mileage expenses for moving?
>> He better because I told him we were renting out his room.
>> - Because Susan will be driving Joshua the 115 miles, she wants
>> to know if she gets to write-off the 230 mile round trip as
>> a moving expense.
>
> We've talked about deductibility of "contributions" to the beer-
> judging nonprofit. Is Joshua going to a school in a state where he's
> legal to drink beer? Perhaps YOU COULD SAY you are sending him there
> to support the beer judging organizaiton and deduct some of it that
> way.
>
> That's all I can think of at the moment.

I capitalized that to which I reply, i.e. "YOU COULD SAY".

and just to whom would you say it? Mr auditor if it ever came to that?

No way, Jose. uh.. Stuart.

ChEAr$,
Harlan

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