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Need help with Form 2441 Issue (Child care benefits) FSH 04-13-2008
Posted by FSH on April 13, 2008, 9:31 pm
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Ok here is the situation: My wife works for a company and has day care
expenses taken out pretax. Her wages show up on W2, box 1. Her child care
benefits show up on W2, box 10.
I am self employed and showed a loss in my business last year.

Question 1: On 1040 wages (line 7) do we add her W2 box 1 and 10 together
or do we just use line 1?
Question 2: Since I took a loss on my business, do I technically have "no
earned income", therefore I get no benefit under form 2441? It doesn't seem
fair that just because I showed a loss that I don't get a credit for daycare
expenses.

Any help would be appreciated, as I can't find the answer to these questions
anywhere and the clock is ticking!

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Posted by Phil Marti on April 14, 2008, 6:46 am
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"FSH" wrote:

> Ok here is the situation: My wife works for a company and has day care
> expenses taken out pretax. Her wages show up on W2, box 1. Her child
> care benefits show up on W2, box 10.
> I am self employed and showed a loss in my business last year.
>
> Question 1: On 1040 wages (line 7) do we add her W2 box 1 and 10 together
> or do we just use line 1?

You start with W-2 Box 1 on line 7 and Box 10 goes to the 2441. The Box 10
amount may wind up on line 7, but that depends on how things turn out on the
2441.

> Question 2: Since I took a loss on my business, do I technically have "no
> earned income", therefore I get no benefit under form 2441?

Yes.

> It doesn't seem fair that just because I showed a loss that I don't get a
> credit for daycare expenses.

I realize that whenever a provision in the law works against you it seems
unfair, but that doesn't change it.

> Any help would be appreciated, as I can't find the answer to these
> questions anywhere and the clock is ticking!

The answers are in the instructions for the 1040 and 2441 and Publication
503.

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Phil Marti
Clarksburg, MD

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