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PayPal interest/dividends Damian Menscher 03-09-2008
Posted by Damian Menscher on March 9, 2008, 4:24 pm
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I have a small amount of money in a paypal account, and they put it
into a money market. So now I've got a couple bucks of income to
report. Since it's under $10, they didn't provide me with a 1099, so
I'm on my own to figure out how to report this. And I'm quite
confused. :)

Normally I'd expect this to be reported as interest. But looking at
my account history, I see they call this a "dividend" from the PayPal
Money Market. And digging further, their prospectus [1] says
dividends will be reported on a 1099-DIV which will distinguish
between dividends that must be treated as ordinary income and which
(if any) are long-term capital gain. So, assuming I don't care about
paying the higher tax rate on a dollar of income, it would seem this
should be reported on Sch. B as ordinary dividends, or possibly on
Sch. D as a capital gain distribution.

But looking to see what the difference is for something to be a
"qualified" dividend, I found Pub. 550, which says dividends paid on
deposits with a financial institution whould be reported as interest
income.

So, what am I supposed to do? Do I report this as interest, ordinary
dividend, qualified dividend, or a capital gain distribution? Or not
at all, since it's under the $10 minimum to generate a 1099?

Damian

[1] https://www.paypal.com/en_US/pdf/PayPal_Prospectus.pdf

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Posted by Barry Margolin on March 9, 2008, 5:52 pm
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> I have a small amount of money in a paypal account, and they put it
> into a money market. So now I've got a couple bucks of income to
> report. Since it's under $10, they didn't provide me with a 1099, so
> I'm on my own to figure out how to report this. And I'm quite
> confused. :)
>
> Normally I'd expect this to be reported as interest. But looking at
> my account history, I see they call this a "dividend" from the PayPal
> Money Market. And digging further, their prospectus [1] says
> dividends will be reported on a 1099-DIV which will distinguish
> between dividends that must be treated as ordinary income and which
> (if any) are long-term capital gain. So, assuming I don't care about
> paying the higher tax rate on a dollar of income, it would seem this
> should be reported on Sch. B as ordinary dividends, or possibly on
> Sch. D as a capital gain distribution.
>
> But looking to see what the difference is for something to be a
> "qualified" dividend, I found Pub. 550, which says dividends paid on
> deposits with a financial institution whould be reported as interest
> income.
>
> So, what am I supposed to do? Do I report this as interest, ordinary
> dividend, qualified dividend, or a capital gain distribution? Or not
> at all, since it's under the $10 minimum to generate a 1099?

Money market accounts never generate capital gains -- the price of a
share is always $1. So this would be either interest or dividends, and
they're taxed identically.

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Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
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Posted by Damian Menscher on March 9, 2008, 9:57 pm
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> In article
>
>
>
> > I have a small amount of money in a paypal account, and they put it
> > into a money market. So now I've got a couple bucks of income to
> > report. Since it's under $10, they didn't provide me with a 1099, so
> > I'm on my own to figure out how to report this. And I'm quite
> > confused. :)
>
> > Normally I'd expect this to be reported as interest. But looking at
> > my account history, I see they call this a "dividend" from the PayPal
> > Money Market. And digging further, their prospectus [1] says
> > dividends will be reported on a 1099-DIV which will distinguish
> > between dividends that must be treated as ordinary income and which
> > (if any) are long-term capital gain. So, assuming I don't care about
> > paying the higher tax rate on a dollar of income, it would seem this
> > should be reported on Sch. B as ordinary dividends, or possibly on
> > Sch. D as a capital gain distribution.
>
> > But looking to see what the difference is for something to be a
> > "qualified" dividend, I found Pub. 550, which says dividends paid on
> > deposits with a financial institution whould be reported as interest
> > income.
>
> > So, what am I supposed to do? Do I report this as interest, ordinary
> > dividend, qualified dividend, or a capital gain distribution? Or not
> > at all, since it's under the $10 minimum to generate a 1099?
>
> Money market accounts never generate capital gains -- the price of a
> share is always $1. So this would be either interest or dividends, and
> they're taxed identically.

Thanks. Digging deeper I've discovered this is something called a
Money Market Fund -- a mutual fund that invests in money markets. So
that resolves my confusion about whether it's a money market or a
fund. According to Pub. 564 it should be reported as a dividend, not
as interest. I'm still not clear on whether it is a qualified
dividend or an ordinary dividend, but I suspect the tax consequences
will be immeasurable anyway.

Damian

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Posted by Ira Smilovitz on March 9, 2008, 10:05 pm
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> In article
>
>> I have a small amount of money in a paypal account, and they put it
>> into a money market. So now I've got a couple bucks of income to
>> report. Since it's under $10, they didn't provide me with a 1099, so
>> I'm on my own to figure out how to report this. And I'm quite
>> confused. :)
>>
>> Normally I'd expect this to be reported as interest. But looking at
>> my account history, I see they call this a "dividend" from the PayPal
>> Money Market. And digging further, their prospectus [1] says
>> dividends will be reported on a 1099-DIV which will distinguish
>> between dividends that must be treated as ordinary income and which
>> (if any) are long-term capital gain. So, assuming I don't care about
>> paying the higher tax rate on a dollar of income, it would seem this
>> should be reported on Sch. B as ordinary dividends, or possibly on
>> Sch. D as a capital gain distribution.
>>
>> But looking to see what the difference is for something to be a
>> "qualified" dividend, I found Pub. 550, which says dividends paid on
>> deposits with a financial institution whould be reported as interest
>> income.
>>
>> So, what am I supposed to do? Do I report this as interest, ordinary
>> dividend, qualified dividend, or a capital gain distribution? Or not
>> at all, since it's under the $10 minimum to generate a 1099?
>
> Money market accounts never generate capital gains -- the price of a
> share is always $1. So this would be either interest or dividends, and
> they're taxed identically.

Never say never. Money markets can generate capital gains, but it is
exceedingly rare. There have been occasions where some money market share
values have varied from $1.00.

Ira Smilovitz

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Posted by Rich Carreiro on March 10, 2008, 8:10 am
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> Never say never. Money markets can generate capital gains, but it is
> exceedingly rare. There have been occasions where some money market share
> values have varied from $1.00.

Also, some MMFs can have cap gain distributions. Fidelity's
MA AMT Tax-Free MMF has had (very small) cap gain distributions
(at least) two years running.

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