Puerto Rican IRA transfer to US?

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Subject Author Date Puerto Rican IRA transfer to US? Bill Brown 05-23-2009  Re: Puerto Rican IRA transfer to US? Alan 05-23-2009  Re: Puerto Rican IRA transfer to US? Bill Brown 05-23-2009
Posted by Bill Brown on May 23, 2009, 12:06 am Please log in for more thread options I saw this question on another forum. A friend of the guy posting the original question has an IRA from monies earned while residing in Puerto Rico. He has moved to the US permanently and is now trying to transfer his IRA to an account in Florida. His broker is telling him that the Puerto Rico IRA must be liquidated and subject to the 10% early withdrawal penalty and then reinvested in a US IRA account. Is this correct? Can he make a trustee-to-trustee transfer of his IRA funds? Another responder said he couldn't find anything in Pub 590 or the instructions for Form 5329 that suggested special rules for Puerto Rico. Looking in more places (CCH Tax Research Network), I couldn't fing anything, either, but I was reminded that there are a lot of special rules for Puerto Rico. One is that most income of a resident of Puerto Rico earned from sources within Puerto Rico is excluded from U.S. income tax. (See Reg §1.933-1) Combine that with the general rule that valid contributions to an IRA require earned income subject to U.S. taxation and you have a plausible argument for the broker's claim. I won't ask you to prove a negative so, does anyone have a cite that supports the broker's claim? -- << ------------------------------------------------------- >> << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, >> << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties >> << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. >> << >> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts >> << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy >> << are at www.asktax.org. >> << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. >> << ------------------------------------------------------- >> Posted by Alan on May 23, 2009, 11:42 am Please log in for more thread options Bill Brown wrote: > I saw this question on another forum. A friend of the guy posting the > original question has an IRA from monies earned while residing in > Puerto Rico. He has moved to the US permanently and is now trying to > transfer his IRA to an account in Florida. His broker is telling him > that the Puerto Rico IRA must be liquidated and subject to the 10% > early withdrawal penalty and then reinvested in a US IRA account. Is > this correct? Can he make a trustee-to-trustee transfer of his IRA > funds? > > Another responder said he couldn't find anything in Pub 590 or the > instructions for Form 5329 that suggested special rules for Puerto > Rico. Looking in more places (CCH Tax Research Network), I couldn't > fing anything, either, but I was reminded that there are a lot of > special rules for Puerto Rico. One is that most income of a resident > of Puerto Rico earned from sources within Puerto Rico is excluded from > U.S. income tax. (See Reg §1.933-1) > > Combine that with the general rule that valid contributions to an IRA > require earned income subject to U.S. taxation and you have a > plausible argument for the broker's claim. > > I won't ask you to prove a negative so, does anyone have a cite that > supports the broker's claim? > The Puerto Rico (PR) Internal Revenue Code (IRC) defines a Puerto Rico IRA (I am assuming that this taxpayer has a PR IRA.). It is unfortunate that they chose to use the same name as the US IRC uses. A PR IRA is not a US IRA. It has different tax rules. In addition, the US IRC defines an IRA as being "a trust created or organized in the United States." The US IRC (Sec. 7701) defines the United States as being the 50 states and the District of Columbia. I must conclude, that the PR IRA has to be treated in the same manner as any other foreign retirement account. One can not perform a tax-free rollover from a PR IRA to a US IRA. Also, the statement by the broker that the PR IRA must first be liquidated, taxes and penalty paid and then reinvested in a US IRA doesn't make sense to me. Once one concludes that you are dealing with a foreign retirement account, there is no way to create a US IRA into which one can deposit the funds obtained by liquidating the foreign account. The taxpayer is limited to the rules relating to making annual contributions to an IRA. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- >> << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, >> << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties >> << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. >> << >> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts >> << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy >> << are at www.asktax.org. >> << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. >> << ------------------------------------------------------- >> Posted by Bill Brown on May 23, 2009, 2:18 pm Please log in for more thread options Thanks, Alan. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- >> << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, >> << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties >> << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. >> << >> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts >> << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy >> << are at www.asktax.org. >> << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. >> << ------------------------------------------------------- >> Similar Threads Posted Puerto Rico bondas -- tax-free? 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