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Re: Lost deposit on proposed rental purchase D. Stussy 06-06-2006
Posted by D. Stussy on June 6, 2006, 7:10 am
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LLTS wrote:

> Taxpayer put 10,000 down on a rental property. Financing
> fell through and he eventually lost his deposit. Misc
> subject to 2% on Sch A?? Anyone have any ideas?

Not deductible at all. Had the transaction gone through, it
would have been a capitalized amount. As no asset was
actually acquired, there will be no deduction upon
disposition either (nothing to dispose).

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Posted by Seth Breidbart on June 8, 2006, 2:22 pm
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> LLTS wrote:

>> Taxpayer put 10,000 down on a rental property. Financing
>> fell through and he eventually lost his deposit. Misc
>> subject to 2% on Sch A?? Anyone have any ideas?

> Not deductible at all. Had the transaction gone through, it
> would have been a capitalized amount. As no asset was
> actually acquired, there will be no deduction upon
> disposition either (nothing to dispose).

Since the attempted purchase was for business purposes, I'd
say it should be deductible.

Perhaps it could be considered an option that expired,
yielding a short-term capital loss.

Seth

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Posted by Harlan Lunsford on June 8, 2006, 2:22 pm
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D. Stussy wrote:
> LLTS wrote:

>> Taxpayer put 10,000 down on a rental property. Financing
>> fell through and he eventually lost his deposit. Misc
>> subject to 2% on Sch A?? Anyone have any ideas?

> Not deductible at all. Had the transaction gone through, it
> would have been a capitalized amount. As no asset was
> actually acquired, there will be no deduction upon
> disposition either (nothing to dispose).

Here was a transaction entered into with a profit motive.
And as such, he has a capital loss. Don't you think?
sure wasn't a personal loss.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Posted by A.G. Kalman on June 8, 2006, 2:22 pm
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D. Stussy wrote:
> LLTS wrote:

>> Taxpayer put 10,000 down on a rental property. Financing
>> fell through and he eventually lost his deposit. Misc
>> subject to 2% on Sch A?? Anyone have any ideas?

> Not deductible at all. Had the transaction gone through, it
> would have been a capitalized amount. As no asset was
> actually acquired, there will be no deduction upon
> disposition either (nothing to dispose).

Why isn't this an expense incurred to produce income that
must be included in gross income? Sounds like a Line 22
Schedule A deduction to me. It was rental property not a
personal residence.

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Posted by D. Stussy on June 10, 2006, 4:19 pm
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A.G. Kalman wrote:
> D. Stussy wrote:
>> LLTS wrote:

>>> Taxpayer put 10,000 down on a rental property. Financing
>>> fell through and he eventually lost his deposit. Misc
>>> subject to 2% on Sch A?? Anyone have any ideas?

>> Not deductible at all. Had the transaction gone through, it
>> would have been a capitalized amount. As no asset was
>> actually acquired, there will be no deduction upon
>> disposition either (nothing to dispose).

> Why isn't this an expense incurred to produce income that
> must be included in gross income? Sounds like a Line 22
> Schedule A deduction to me. It was rental property not a
> personal residence.

If you feel that you can make that argument (and deduct it
pursuant to Section 212 - production of income), go ahead.
However, I note that this was an amount expended for the
acquisiton of an asset (that was not actually required), and
that requires capitalization - but as there's nothing to
capitalize the expenditure into, there's no provision under
which it would be deductible.

As for Schedule A, line 22, I must disagree. As the
original question claims a connection to rental property AND
as capital asset transactions (sales) both are "above the
line" type transactions, Schedule A is the wrong place for
it. An aggressive approach would place it onto Schedule E,
but I bet that Schedule D (with the $3k capital loss limit)
would be considered by the IRS upon audit if outright
disallowance isn't taken as their position.

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