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Rental Home question lyoncc 08-14-2007
Posted by Seth on August 26, 2007, 3:00 am
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> berniesa@pacifier.com (Bernard=A0S) posted:

>> What happens to the remaining costs of the
>> old windows and roof?

> There is no adequate basis for subtracting them from the
> original "total depreciation" established, so they'll just
> continue as a part of that -- in addition to the separate
> itemization for the _improvement_ cost.

Since OP owned it "for many years" he might have already
replaced the windows and roof, and be on the second
replacement, in which case I think the remaining
depreciation on the previous set can be taken immediately.

I agree that this is unlikely, because if he'd done it
before he probably wouldn't be asking about the tax
treatment now.

Seth

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Posted by Paul Thomas, CPA on August 24, 2007, 7:29 pm
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>>> Hi all. I have owned a rental home for many years. I am
>>> planning on installing new windows thru-out the home that
>>> will cost appoximately $9K. Can I deduct the $9K against
>>> the rental income all in one year, or do I have to place the
>>> $9K on the depreciation schedule and deduct it over the 20
>>> years? I am also planning on a new roof next tax year, so I
>>> would have the same question for that.

>> In each case I'd consider them to be a new asset, with 27.5
>> year expensing.

> What happens to the remaining costs of the old windows and roof?

I doubt you have segregated costs for those items from the initial purchase,
or for that matter, from construction records.

Generally the house cost basis continues to be depreciated
over time with no change in it's initial basis because you
stripped off the shingles or replaced windows or doors.

As I recall, replacing shingles is treated as a repair
expense unless you start replacing the roof deck or other
roof structural systems.

--
Paul A. Thomas, CPA
Athens, Georgia

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Posted by Bernard S on August 26, 2007, 3:00 am
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>>>> Hi all. I have owned a rental home for many years. I am
>>>> planning on installing new windows thru-out the home that
>>>> will cost appoximately $9K. Can I deduct the $9K against
>>>> the rental income all in one year, or do I have to place the
>>>> $9K on the depreciation schedule and deduct it over the 20
>>>> years? I am also planning on a new roof next tax year, so I
>>>> would have the same question for that.

>>> In each case I'd consider them to be a new asset, with 27.5
>>> year expensing.

>> What happens to the remaining costs of the old windows and roof?

> I doubt you have segregated costs for those items from the
> initial purchase, or for that matter, from construction
> records.
>
> Generally the house cost basis continues to be depreciated
> over time with no change in it's initial basis because you
> stripped off the shingles or replaced windows or doors.
>
> As I recall, replacing shingles is treated as a repair
> expense unless you start replacing the roof deck or other
> roof structural systems.

I am having trouble reconciling this answer to Art's
original answer.

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Posted by Seth on August 27, 2007, 2:12 am
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>>>> In each case I'd consider them to be a new asset, with 27.5
>>>> year expensing.

>> As I recall, replacing shingles is treated as a repair
>> expense unless you start replacing the roof deck or other
>> roof structural systems.

> I am having trouble reconciling this answer to Art's
> original answer.

Replacing the entire roof makes for a new asset.

Replacing a few shingles is a repair to the roof.

Seth

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Posted by Arthur Kamlet on August 27, 2007, 2:12 am
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>>>>> Hi all. I have owned a rental home for many years. I am
>>>>> planning on installing new windows thru-out the home that
>>>>> will cost appoximately $9K. Can I deduct the $9K against
>>>>> the rental income all in one year, or do I have to place the
>>>>> $9K on the depreciation schedule and deduct it over the 20
>>>>> years? I am also planning on a new roof next tax year, so I
>>>>> would have the same question for that.

>>>> In each case I'd consider them to be a new asset, with 27.5
>>>> year expensing.

>>> What happens to the remaining costs of the old windows and roof?

>> I doubt you have segregated costs for those items from the
>> initial purchase, or for that matter, from construction
>> records.
>>
>> Generally the house cost basis continues to be depreciated
>> over time with no change in it's initial basis because you
>> stripped off the shingles or replaced windows or doors.
>>
>> As I recall, replacing shingles is treated as a repair
>> expense unless you start replacing the roof deck or other
>> roof structural systems.

> I am having trouble reconciling this answer to Art's
> original answer.

Five shingles here, ten shingles there, that's maintenance.

Replacing much or all of the shingles, that's a separate
new asset, 27.5 years.

--
ArtKamlet at a o l dot c o m Columbus OH K2PZH

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