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Rental Income Vijay Sharma 03-11-2008
Posted by Vijay Sharma on March 11, 2008, 11:59 pm
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I have a personal tax preparation question.

I own a rental home with my mom who lives with us. I file married
filing jointly (with my wife). My mom is 71 and gets less than $300 a
month in social security.

She gets $7,700 in rent and I keep around $4,000 annually because she
put a larger down payment than I did although I pay mortgage and all
the expenses and I manage the rental house - this is all mutually
agreed upon.

I realize that it would be beneficial if I do NOT show her as a
dependent because if I do then she has to file a tax return since the
requirement for filing for a dependent 65 years or over and Single
according to my calculation comes to only around $2,300 of gross
income. She did have some $2,200 in interest money earned as well.

So with rent income of $7,700 and interest income of $2,200, am I
correct that she does NOT have to file a tax return because the
requirement for filing a tax return for over 65 years and Single is
$10,050 if she is not a dependent of mine? I assume her around $3,600
of social security would not factor in, correct?

If I show a small share of rent on my tax return compared to her -
$4,000 to her $7,700 while me picking up all rental expenses, will
that raise questions by the IRS or State?

Thanks in advance for your help.

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Posted by Phil Marti on March 12, 2008, 1:46 am
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"Vijay Sharma" wrote:

> I own a rental home with my mom who lives with us. I file married
> filing jointly (with my wife). My mom is 71 and gets less than $300 a
> month in social security.
>
> She gets $7,700 in rent and I keep around $4,000 annually because she
> put a larger down payment than I did although I pay mortgage and all
> the expenses and I manage the rental house - this is all mutually
> agreed upon.
>
> I realize that it would be beneficial if I do NOT show her as a
> dependent

You cannot claim her as a dependent. She has too much gross income,
assuming your numbers are correct. See IRS Publication 501, which also
discusses her filing requirement, if any.

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Posted by Vijay Sharma on March 13, 2008, 11:25 pm
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> "Vijay Sharma" wrote:
> > I own a rental home with my mom who lives with us. I file married
> > filing jointly (with my wife). My mom is 71 and gets less than $300 a
> > month in social security.
>
> > She gets $7,700 in rent and I keep around $4,000 annually because she
> > put a larger down payment than I did although I pay mortgage and all
> > the expenses and I manage the rental house - this is all mutually
> > agreed upon.
>
> > I realize that it would be beneficial if I do NOT show her as a
> > dependent
>
> You cannot claim her as a dependent. She has too much gross income,
> assuming your numbers are correct. See IRS Publication 501, which also
> discusses her filing requirement, if any.
>
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> Phil Marti
> Clarksburg, MD
>
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I did not get much response on this. So please can some of you reply
to my questions? I would really appreciate.

Thanks.




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Posted by D. Stussy on March 14, 2008, 1:27 am
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> > "Vijay Sharma" wrote:
> > > I own a rental home with my mom who lives with us. I file married
> > > filing jointly (with my wife). My mom is 71 and gets less than $300 a
> > > month in social security.
> >
> > > She gets $7,700 in rent and I keep around $4,000 annually because she
> > > put a larger down payment than I did although I pay mortgage and all
> > > the expenses and I manage the rental house - this is all mutually
> > > agreed upon.
> >
> > > I realize that it would be beneficial if I do NOT show her as a
> > > dependent
> >
> > You cannot claim her as a dependent. She has too much gross income,
> > assuming your numbers are correct. See IRS Publication 501, which also
> > discusses her filing requirement, if any.
>
> I did not get much response on this. So please can some of you reply
> to my questions? I would really appreciate.

If the first reply is substantially correct, why should the rest of us
bother with it? You have your answer.

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Posted by Vijay Sharma on March 14, 2008, 10:46 am
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>
>
>
>
> > > "Vijay Sharma" wrote:
> > > > I own a rental home with my mom who lives with us. I file married
> > > > filing jointly (with my wife). My mom is 71 and gets less than $300 a
> > > > month in social security.
>
> > > > She gets $7,700 in rent and I keep around $4,000 annually because she
> > > > put a larger down payment than I did although I pay mortgage and all
> > > > the expenses and I manage the rental house - this is all mutually
> > > > agreed upon.
>
> > > > I realize that it would be beneficial if I do NOT show her as a
> > > > dependent
>
> > > You cannot claim her as a dependent. She has too much gross income,
> > > assuming your numbers are correct. See IRS Publication 501, which also
> > > discusses her filing requirement, if any.
>
> > I did not get much response on this. So please can some of you reply
> > to my questions? I would really appreciate.
>
> If the first reply is substantially correct, why should the rest of us
> bother with it? You have your answer.
>
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My last two questions have not been answered as to whether social
security income is part of gross income in determing whether she
should file a tax return or not and the question about me claiming
100% of expenses and yet reporting only 34% of rental income.

Thanks.

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