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Return for minor alle 03-08-2008
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Posted by alle on March 8, 2008, 1:00 pm
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If a child under 18 has unearned income, dividends, interest and
cap.gains plus a distribution from a trust ( K 1) should the parent
report his income on their return or should he file his own return?
Forms 8814 and 8615 do not cover the case for K1 distributions.
Al F.

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Posted by Condor on March 8, 2008, 3:25 pm
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> If a child under 18 has unearned income, dividends, interest and cap.gains
> plus a distribution from a trust ( K 1) should the parent report his
> income on their return or should he file his own return? Forms 8814 and
> 8615 do not cover the case for K1 distributions.
> Al F.

Does the child's investment income exceed $850?


Condor

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Posted by alle on March 9, 2008, 4:30 pm
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Condor wrote:
>>If a child under 18 has unearned income, dividends, interest and cap.gains
>>plus a distribution from a trust ( K 1) should the parent report his
>>income on their return or should he file his own return? Forms 8814 and
>>8615 do not cover the case for K1 distributions.
>>Al F.
>
>
> Does the child's investment income exceed $850?
>
>
>

Investment income is less than $850 but K1 trust distribution brings it
up to $1500.
>

Al F.

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Posted by Mark Bole on March 9, 2008, 11:15 pm
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alle wrote:
> Condor wrote:
>>> If a child under 18 has unearned income, dividends, interest and
>>> cap.gains plus a distribution from a trust ( K 1) should the parent
>>> report his income on their return or should he file his own return?
>>> Forms 8814 and 8615 do not cover the case for K1 distributions.

The income from the trust should be treated just as it is reported on
the K-1, namely interest, dividends, etc. Whether it's reported on a
K-1 or a 1099 is irrelevant.

Capital gains *distributions* (from mutual funds) are eligible for the
parents' election, actual capital gains from sales of assets on Schedule
D are not.

>> Does the child's investment income exceed $850?

> Investment income is less than $850 but K1 trust distribution brings it
> up to $1500.

Investment income under $1700 is not subject to "kiddie tax". To keep
things simple and also obtain the best tax result in this situation, the
child should file his or her own return.

-Mark Bole

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Posted by Ira Smilovitz on March 9, 2008, 10:09 pm
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> If a child under 18 has unearned income, dividends, interest and cap.gains
> plus a distribution from a trust ( K 1) should the parent report his
> income on their return or should he file his own return? Forms 8814 and
> 8615 do not cover the case for K1 distributions.
> Al F.

Child files a full 1040 with 8615. Parents cannot report the child's income
on their own return when capital gains are involved.

Ira Smilovitz

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