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Roth IRA: When does 5 year period start? Howard Kaikow 01-30-2008
Posted by Howard Kaikow on January 30, 2008, 12:11 pm
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I had a Roth IRA at one fund company, started in 1999.
That account is now closed.
If I open a Roth at another fund company, does the 5-year period still start
from 1 Jan 1999?

If I open the new Roth by converting from a traditional IRA, does the 5-year
period for the conversion start with 1 Jan 1999, or does it start over?

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Posted by Herb Smith on January 30, 2008, 12:36 pm
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> I had a Roth IRA at one fund company, started in 1999.
> That account is now closed.
> If I open a Roth at another fund company, does the 5-year period still start
> from 1 Jan 1999?

As long as the original account was not closed until after January 1,
2004 you have met one of the prime conditions for "qualified"
distributions (i.e. tax free earnings).
If the account was closed prior to Jan 1, 2004 (i.e. less than 5 tax
years), you will need to make up the missing months with the new
account.

>
> If I open the new Roth by converting from a traditional IRA, does the 5-year
> period for the conversion start with 1 Jan 1999, or does it start over?

Now you are talking about a DIFFERENT 5 year holding period, one that
applies only to conversion contributions. It also applies only while
you are not yet 59-1/2. EACH conversion starts a NEW 5-year holding
period which has nothing to do with the original account opening. Once
you turn 59-1/2 you no longer have to worry about the conversion
holding period.


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Posted by Howard Kaikow on January 30, 2008, 5:34 pm
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> > I had a Roth IRA at one fund company, started in 1999.
> > That account is now closed.
> > If I open a Roth at another fund company, does the 5-year period still
start
> > from 1 Jan 1999?
>
> As long as the original account was not closed until after January 1,
> 2004 you have met one of the prime conditions for "qualified"
> distributions (i.e. tax free earnings).
> If the account was closed prior to Jan 1, 2004 (i.e. less than 5 tax
> years), you will need to make up the missing months with the new
> account.

Thanx.

It appears that I closed the account in 2006, so I'm OK.

> > If I open the new Roth by converting from a traditional IRA, does the
5-year
> > period for the conversion start with 1 Jan 1999, or does it start over?
>
> Now you are talking about a DIFFERENT 5 year holding period, one that
> applies only to conversion contributions. It also applies only while
> you are not yet 59-1/2. EACH conversion starts a NEW 5-year holding
> period which has nothing to do with the original account opening. Once
> you turn 59-1/2 you no longer have to worry about the conversion
> holding period.

Thanx.

Alas, I am over 59.5 years of age, so this will be a non-issue.

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