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Sale of Residential Real Property BobLeavitt 01-31-2008
Posted by BobLeavitt on January 31, 2008, 7:32 pm
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I am selling my 25% TIC interest in an apartment building that I acquired in
1993. I do not live in the building. The selling price exceeds the basis (and
the original purchase price).

Do I understand that I am required to allocate a part of the sale price to
personal property that I have been depreciating (carpets, refrigerator, stove)?
If so, any suggestions as to how one determines the current value of a roomful
of 3 year old carpet (and 2 year old carpet and 4 year old carpet) , as well as
used appliances of various ages. I am talking small amounts here - my share of
the cost of a refrigerator is $100, my share of the carpet in some of the units
is $400. Looking for practical, rather than theoretical, advice.

Is the personal property what is termed Section 1245 property?

Thanks for your help.

Robert Leavitt

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Posted by Arthur Kamlet on January 31, 2008, 11:11 pm
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>I am selling my 25% TIC interest in an apartment building that I
>acquired in 1993. I do not live in the building. The selling price
>exceeds the basis (and the original purchase price).
>
>Do I understand that I am required to allocate a part of the sale price
>to personal property that I have been depreciating (carpets,
>refrigerator, stove)? If so, any suggestions as to how one determines
>the current value of a roomful of 3 year old carpet (and 2 year old
>carpet and 4 year old carpet) , as well as used appliances of various
>ages. I am talking small amounts here - my share of the cost of a
>refrigerator is $100, my share of the carpet in some of the units is
>$400. Looking for practical, rather than theoretical, advice.
>
>Is the personal property what is termed Section 1245 property?


Yes, the carpet and appliances are Section 1245.


One common method for allocating sales price to Sec 1245 property is
to say its the same as its curently depreciated value.

That has the handy dandy effect of generating zero gain or loss
on 1245 property.
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ArtKamlet at a o l dot c o m Columbus OH K2PZH

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Posted by Stuart Bronstein on February 1, 2008, 12:14 am
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kamlet@panix.com (Arthur Kamlet) wrote:

> One common method for allocating sales price to Sec 1245 property
> is to say its the same as its curently depreciated value.
>
> That has the handy dandy effect of generating zero gain or loss
> on 1245 property.

Unfortunately the buyer would prefer a higher value, since it would
allow him to depreciate it faster than if that money were allocated to
the real estate.

Stu

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Posted by inky dink on February 1, 2008, 1:29 am
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> kamlet@panix.com (Arthur Kamlet) wrote:
>
>> One common method for allocating sales price to Sec 1245 property
>> is to say its the same as its curently depreciated value.
>>
>> That has the handy dandy effect of generating zero gain or loss
>> on 1245 property.
>
> Unfortunately the buyer would prefer a higher value, since it would
> allow him to depreciate it faster than if that money were allocated to
> the real estate.
>

Then have the buyer do his homework, and provide values and substantiation.

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