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Short term or long term? Ernie Klein 12-28-2007
Posted by Ernie Klein on December 28, 2007, 3:29 pm
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On 2/6/07 Lucent (LU) merged with Alcatel to become Alcatel-Lucent
(ALU). I received new ALU stock in exchange for my LU stock that came
from the Lucent spinoff (10/14/06). I sold the ALU stock on 12/11/07.

The "acquired" date for the ALU stock and the sold date make it seem
like it is short term, but since I didn't actually purchase any new
stock, it seems to me that a company merger shouldn't change my long
term stock into short term.

If I am correct that this is really long term, then how do I show that
on Sched D when the dates indicate short term? Do I use the acquired
date of the Lucent stock even though the stock that I sold didn't even
exist until 2/6/07 ?


BTW I have the same problem with Agere (AGR) merging with LSI Logic Corp
(LSI) on 4/2/07. Other long time holders of AT&T stock who sold off the
small oddball spinoffs in 2007 may have the same issues.

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Posted by Paul Thomas, CPA on December 28, 2007, 3:41 pm
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> On 2/6/07 Lucent (LU) merged with Alcatel to become Alcatel-Lucent
> (ALU). I received new ALU stock in exchange for my LU stock that came
> from the Lucent spinoff (10/14/06). I sold the ALU stock on 12/11/07.
>
> The "acquired" date for the ALU stock and the sold date make it seem
> like it is short term, but since I didn't actually purchase any new
> stock, it seems to me that a company merger shouldn't change my long
> term stock into short term.



It doesn't change the holding period. Mergers - as this is most likely -
have the original purchase date carry forward. The same rules apply for
spin-offs.





> If I am correct that this is really long term, then how do I show that
> on Sched D when the dates indicate short term?


The IRS does not get your purchase date information, so enter the date you
bought the original shares.





> Do I use the acquired date of the Lucent stock

Yup.




> even though the stock that I sold didn't even
> exist until 2/6/07 ?


The stock you sold is an extension of the stock you bought back in.....2006.







> BTW I have the same problem with Agere (AGR) merging with LSI Logic Corp
> (LSI) on 4/2/07. Other long time holders of AT&T stock who sold off the
> small oddball spinoffs in 2007 may have the same issues.





The same type of rules apply,




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Athens, Georgia

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Posted by Ernie Klein on December 28, 2007, 11:31 pm
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> > On 2/6/07 Lucent (LU) merged with Alcatel to become Alcatel-Lucent
> > (ALU). I received new ALU stock in exchange for my LU stock that came
> > from the Lucent spinoff (10/14/06). I sold the ALU stock on 12/11/07.
> >
> > The "acquired" date for the ALU stock and the sold date make it seem
> > like it is short term, but since I didn't actually purchase any new
> > stock, it seems to me that a company merger shouldn't change my long
> > term stock into short term.
>
>
>
> It doesn't change the holding period. Mergers - as this is most likely -
> have the original purchase date carry forward. The same rules apply for
> spin-offs.

That's what I thought, Paul. Thanks for confirming it.

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